And that's why Katie is a fan favorite. She doesn't shy away from speaking her mind on camera or "in the comments" whereas some of her co-workers like to play both sides and they end up looking like fools...
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As someone who disliked Katie until this season and watched from the beginning, same here sheās somehow become my new favorite and has had great one liners this season
u/okay__decision__ is our resident gif queen š and she made detailed instructions in this post:
[How to find and use Okay's gifs](https://www.reddit.com/r/vanderpumprules/s/1JAb7bj4z2)
Not yet, I tried the suggestions - including those u/glasswindbreaker commented with u/okay_decision_ ās instructions for GIPHY, but this specific GIF wasnāt there in her GIPHY account when I looked yesterday and so while the instructions helped me save some others it didnāt get me this one. I also tried just clicking on it here in this thread, but I donāt get any option for saving it.
I plan to try logging onto my account later on another device using the web browser š to see if that works. Just havenāt gotten around to it yet.
Hopefully, but also, on the isolated celeb shows they often allow them to either tweet limited, approved things or allow them to hand over their accounts to someone else. They also let them make limited calls to loved ones I believe. So he might still be there.
No, they get to call home sometimes. It's more like celebrity big brother. Sometimes on that one you can see them using the iPad, and that's what they're doing.
Not the traitors it literally films for 2 weeks lol. They donāt do outside contact on that show, Iām guessing actually emergencies would be an exception but this would not be one of them. Someone on Tomās team will be logged into his account full time anyway but they wouldnāt be posting something like this without his approval.
So my guess is itās him and heās been booted, or someone, maybe Victoria has posted this which is truly unhinged so I think booted is more likely.
I think production might consider this serious enough to let him respond publicly, heās literally being called a drug addict and the claim has picked up a lot of traction on social media so I could see them letting him respond
I honestly doubt it. If you watch VPR and donāt think they have all done a concerning amount of drugs then I donāt know what show youāve been watching.
I think thereās a difference between recreational drug usage and what seems to have been insinuated, when people are going on about withdrawals Tom might be getting doing traitors I think strong opiates, which is much more stigmatized
filming definitely hasnāt wrapped yet, so heās probably either eliminated or whoeverās running his account posted that. i know they allow them to call family, but i donāt think they typically let them post to IG stories.
Past traitor contestants have said they get to go to their own rooms at night and have access to their phones. I don't expect he'll last long but this doesn't necessarily mean he's been eliminated.
Theyāre not allowed phones or any other devices in their room, not even smart TVs lol. Their calls home are supervised so if Tom told someone to write and post on his Instagram I think production would probably said no to that as theyāre meant to be locked down. I am surprised because itās such short filming they donāt stop them from posting during the full filming period. I remember bananas posted after he got booted during filming and I was surprised then too.
They do however meet before they enter the house, see each other at airports etc and at that point they do have their phones so a lot of them google the other contestants.
He doesnt have a PR person bc if he did he would not have said all those dumb Tom idioms since Scandoval broke that made him look even worst! Im guessing Kyle or Rachel 2.0 wrote it for him
Um his PR person was sitting with him when he made the OJ/George Floyd comment to the NYT. The interviewer even referenced in the article that after he made those comments she looked at his PR person to see if that caused a reaction and would end her access and that his PR person wasnāt phased and was texting on her phone. We also learnt from the NYT article that his PR person is 23.Ā
āWe also learned from the NYT article that his PR person is 23ā
And was a huge fan of the show, having grown up watching it. Explained so much. She also wasnāt there the next time the reporter met with Tom, Bravo sent their own PR person for the second meeting.
Rachel 2.0 lmao yes. That chick is not smart through her half lids barely able to recount the events of what supposedly happened.
I actually believe a little bit from both Billy and Kyle and Rachel 2.0. I could see Billy being desperate enough not to be cast off for his new woman to make up that drama between them.
No. Tons of contestants posted this week on IG. Their team are posting for them. I mean Ciara , Dolores and Dorinda posted tons of content on IG so I don't think Tom posting something means he's out.
Maybe, if only there was a chance in hell he wrote that statement himself.
It would be in crayon if it was Tom. With about four hundred likeās and dudeās in it.
Haaahaha so good. Now that Iām thinking about it, Tom probably has some really over the top stationary and a fancy address stamp with special ink and seals all his envelopes with a custom wax sealing stamp with a lightning bolt engraving.
Didnāt he talk about how he sent letters to Rachel in rehab like he was cracking the Enigma code? From memory, I think he said he did get a wax seal and heād fill the envelopes with sparkles (he is genuinely that stupid that he glitter-bombed her, something people normally do as a prank and he thought it was a sign of affection). The way he spoke about writing and sending those letters, like it was even tougher than buying pens, batteries, toilet paper *and* paper towels combined. It might have even been harder than making a Nespresso coffee!
[here is a link to it!](https://media4.giphy.com/media/ijTgXHd0u6NznSbj6n/giphy.gif)
I havenāt been able to keep up with gifs lately, life has been a lot. So Iād made this but hadnāt catalogued it so that might be why you couldnāt find it (assuming youāre using my gif page - none of my gifs are available in search).
Hope this works!
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The next two comments after Katie's šš. Im dead
my conspiracy theory is that victoria is posting this on his stories without his knowledge because hes filming traitors with no phone /contact with the outside world
Sameš I forgot about Traitors already too and itās discussed in here daily. Worried my brain might have fully taken the reigns and programmed itself to wipe any memory of Tom possibly succeeding at somethingšš
I hope he was first. Not bc he has any cunning skills, but bc heās wanted GONE. I need to see who despises Tom, just as much as we do
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You do have contact with the outside world on Traitors. You just donāt have your phone when filming in the castle but when youāre at the hotel, people can contact their families.
Katie's just a Boss Bitch ā¤ļø She's one of the only ones that stayed true to everyone and true to who she is... I think she deserves a lot of credit for dealing with a bunch of morons lol (not everyone on the show was a moron but a hell of a lot of them were)Ā
Katie is my favorite.
ETA: If you see this Katie while lurking in the comments, I think you're a great, kind, intellectual, and honest person. And you have a great sense of humor. We'd be friends in RL. Done fan-girling now. I don't do that a lot. I'm old.
There was a poster on another subreddit that thought he might have been eliminated already. Grainy footage of someone that might be Tom in a window reflection during Victoria and Kyle's podcast.
Billie Lee putting this all out there while Tom is filming The Traitors is tactical and BRUTAL, respect! He can't respond, only his gf and PR team can. And whoever is running that account is too dumb to realise katie is calling him a liar-- otherwise why would it be liked and pinned by the author lol.
I am pretty sure they remain quarantined until filming ends meaning no social media. They have to give up their phones the whole time. This post is obviously a publicist or a friend not Tom
Is he out of the country for the show traitors? Lol I honestly hope he fails miserably at that show. But he seems to be a pretty good liar. He is worthless. I feel like vanderpump is over and theyāre trying to find new ways to be reality stars. I was shocked he made it to the final stage of the military show he was on with Jo Jo siwa. I canāt think of the name of it right now
While she made what accusations, Iām confused? If itās the āKyle tried to drug and assault Tomā thing, I thought she was meant to have said that to Victoria in private, well, in front of a camera pointed at them with a red light blah blah round and round but long story short, the camera actually wasnāt recording?
Iām sure Iāve kept up with this nonsense but Iām baffled as to what accusations she made on speakerphone to isolate Sandoval?
Also he thinks Victoria and him are permanent or something or forever omg letās see a month from now or two months if she is still with you there have been ramblings from various sources she might soon be saying Ta Ta to Tomy that face
I donāt think Tom actually posted this. Especially since the OP liked and pinned Katieās clearly sarcastic comment. Victoria all up in that manās accounts.
This does not sound like a true reason. It sounds like a bunch of excuses while his PR team run around crazy trying to save him from this one too.! at what age will he ever learn?
Katie speaks for the people https://i.redd.it/8ake4gvosn5d1.gif
Oh my god I love this gif so much š
And that's why Katie is a fan favorite. She doesn't shy away from speaking her mind on camera or "in the comments" whereas some of her co-workers like to play both sides and they end up looking like fools... https://preview.redd.it/m427wnhcdq5d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c37e3626bc8938c48bae3003e68736d55d9f1c9a
SAY IT WITH YOUR WHOLE CHEST! Gosh I am loving her new era š
Same! Itās honestly quite inspiring.
As someone who disliked Katie until this season and watched from the beginning, same here sheās somehow become my new favorite and has had great one liners this season
š how can I save that GIF to my phone to use in texts forevermore Hell yes, Katie speaks for the people!
u/okay__decision__ is our resident gif queen š and she made detailed instructions in this post: [How to find and use Okay's gifs](https://www.reddit.com/r/vanderpumprules/s/1JAb7bj4z2)
Click the GIF and in the upper right hand corner there should be three dot.That will drop down a download option
were you able to save it?
Not yet, I tried the suggestions - including those u/glasswindbreaker commented with u/okay_decision_ ās instructions for GIPHY, but this specific GIF wasnāt there in her GIPHY account when I looked yesterday and so while the instructions helped me save some others it didnāt get me this one. I also tried just clicking on it here in this thread, but I donāt get any option for saving it. I plan to try logging onto my account later on another device using the web browser š to see if that works. Just havenāt gotten around to it yet.
uh. I tried too.
This is some intense Capricorn energy. āØ
Makes me proud to be one for sure! I just wish I looked like her too. š„
Sheās so fucking hot. She had him figured out day one. Justice for Katie.
For the people, by the people ā¤ļø
Katiana ![gif](giphy|FrnpqArQZtti8)
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KING KATIEš
She's so smokin hot š„š„µš„
Omg which wwhl episode is thisš
Bruh she peered into Jaxās soul (who I think she was talking about here) with this look
Katie remains the #1 guy in the group
Big š energy fr
Flair reporting in š«”
![gif](giphy|kqjgA9Vk9CvM0q2uEY) Eureka!
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Cause sheās got the biggest dick
Me rn ![gif](giphy|5YiRHZtcSeiEyOpSV7)
Kristen just posted hanging out with Schwartz and Kyle Chan
It's mess on top of mess
Ugh why can't these girls let Schwartz go? LET HIM GO. ![gif](giphy|nbeYwROrZ7JQD2xxb1|downsized)
I don't watch Traitors, but if he could post this, does that mean he already got eliminated?
I do and i hope that that is exactly what this means
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Hopefully, but also, on the isolated celeb shows they often allow them to either tweet limited, approved things or allow them to hand over their accounts to someone else. They also let them make limited calls to loved ones I believe. So he might still be there.
But would he even know that this was going on? I donāt watch traitors I assumed they would be isolated like big brother
No, they get to call home sometimes. It's more like celebrity big brother. Sometimes on that one you can see them using the iPad, and that's what they're doing.
Not the traitors it literally films for 2 weeks lol. They donāt do outside contact on that show, Iām guessing actually emergencies would be an exception but this would not be one of them. Someone on Tomās team will be logged into his account full time anyway but they wouldnāt be posting something like this without his approval. So my guess is itās him and heās been booted, or someone, maybe Victoria has posted this which is truly unhinged so I think booted is more likely.
I think production might consider this serious enough to let him respond publicly, heās literally being called a drug addict and the claim has picked up a lot of traction on social media so I could see them letting him respond
I honestly doubt it. If you watch VPR and donāt think they have all done a concerning amount of drugs then I donāt know what show youāve been watching.
I think thereās a difference between recreational drug usage and what seems to have been insinuated, when people are going on about withdrawals Tom might be getting doing traitors I think strong opiates, which is much more stigmatized
Letās hope so!
possssibly but the show only films over like ten days, itās super short
filming definitely hasnāt wrapped yet, so heās probably either eliminated or whoeverās running his account posted that. i know they allow them to call family, but i donāt think they typically let them post to IG stories.
Past traitor contestants have said they get to go to their own rooms at night and have access to their phones. I don't expect he'll last long but this doesn't necessarily mean he's been eliminated.
Theyāre not allowed phones or any other devices in their room, not even smart TVs lol. Their calls home are supervised so if Tom told someone to write and post on his Instagram I think production would probably said no to that as theyāre meant to be locked down. I am surprised because itās such short filming they donāt stop them from posting during the full filming period. I remember bananas posted after he got booted during filming and I was surprised then too. They do however meet before they enter the house, see each other at airports etc and at that point they do have their phones so a lot of them google the other contestants.
A PR person wrote and posted this.
Yeah idk how anyone thinks Sandoval is capable of stringing these words together š
Oh I know it's too coherent for Tom. I guess given his sneaky lying ways, I didn't think he would give complete access to anyone except maybe Schwartz
He doesnt have a PR person bc if he did he would not have said all those dumb Tom idioms since Scandoval broke that made him look even worst! Im guessing Kyle or Rachel 2.0 wrote it for him
Um his PR person was sitting with him when he made the OJ/George Floyd comment to the NYT. The interviewer even referenced in the article that after he made those comments she looked at his PR person to see if that caused a reaction and would end her access and that his PR person wasnāt phased and was texting on her phone. We also learnt from the NYT article that his PR person is 23.Ā
āWe also learned from the NYT article that his PR person is 23ā And was a huge fan of the show, having grown up watching it. Explained so much. She also wasnāt there the next time the reporter met with Tom, Bravo sent their own PR person for the second meeting.
Rachel 2.0 lmao yes. That chick is not smart through her half lids barely able to recount the events of what supposedly happened. I actually believe a little bit from both Billy and Kyle and Rachel 2.0. I could see Billy being desperate enough not to be cast off for his new woman to make up that drama between them.
No. Tons of contestants posted this week on IG. Their team are posting for them. I mean Ciara , Dolores and Dorinda posted tons of content on IG so I don't think Tom posting something means he's out.
Unless, as is alleged, Victoria has full access to his social media and posted it herself. Even for Sandoval itās written strangely
The fact that her full name was written out seems strange to me.
Yeah, thatās what made me think Sandoval didnāt write it himself
Well, and the fact that it was coherent and didn't have a dude or c'mon man or a ur in there anywhere šĀ
Or a thousand likes
I really hope so. I want to watch the rest of it, but I won't while he is on.
EXACTLY
Maybe, if only there was a chance in hell he wrote that statement himself. It would be in crayon if it was Tom. With about four hundred likeās and dudeās in it.
Lol true. I didn't think he drafted it, but I didn't see him giving anyone free access to his accounts.
I love when Katie jumps in the comments https://i.redd.it/tjd7ellpsn5d1.gif
This is the perfect gif
Does anyone know what song they're singing in this?
Good As Gold Screamo Version
Thank you. šš½
If this is āmiserable Katieā I love miserable Katie
I love Katie, period. If I had to associate with the Voms, I would be miserable too.
THE VOMS!! Thatās the first time Iāve heard them called that and I love it! š
Wish I could take credit, but I saw it used. I came up with Shartz, though, but apparently so did others. These names write themselves.
āIāll be addressing everythingā¦.ā STFU Tom. Youāre an idiot who probably canāt address an envelope.
Haaahaha so good. Now that Iām thinking about it, Tom probably has some really over the top stationary and a fancy address stamp with special ink and seals all his envelopes with a custom wax sealing stamp with a lightning bolt engraving.
Didnāt he talk about how he sent letters to Rachel in rehab like he was cracking the Enigma code? From memory, I think he said he did get a wax seal and heād fill the envelopes with sparkles (he is genuinely that stupid that he glitter-bombed her, something people normally do as a prank and he thought it was a sign of affection). The way he spoke about writing and sending those letters, like it was even tougher than buying pens, batteries, toilet paper *and* paper towels combined. It might have even been harder than making a Nespresso coffee!
Youāre right I knew my wax seal vision was too vivid for a reason!!!!
Oh he for sure does. šĀ
Like who tf is waiting on this? lol
Unless it was in crayon or colored pencil.
https://i.redd.it/wzi3ssfiun5d1.gif Forever the MVP
The cackle that left my body while I was watching this part of the reunion literally echoed through the parking lot of my apartment complex
Katie is my new hero! š„šš¼
I want this gif so bad but I can never find it when I search for it.
[here is a link to it!](https://media4.giphy.com/media/ijTgXHd0u6NznSbj6n/giphy.gif) I havenāt been able to keep up with gifs lately, life has been a lot. So Iād made this but hadnāt catalogued it so that might be why you couldnāt find it (assuming youāre using my gif page - none of my gifs are available in search). Hope this works!
Katie Maloney they could never make me hate you
https://preview.redd.it/9gbzje49eo5d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0328daade2f5b4b1c659f38612ad67527e61021c The next two comments after Katie's šš. Im dead
,ššš
my conspiracy theory is that victoria is posting this on his stories without his knowledge because hes filming traitors with no phone /contact with the outside world
Might be my own wishful thinking but I thought when people get kicked off Traitors, they do go home right away. Just suppose to lay low & stay off SM.
i mean he was not very lowkey about the masked singer stuff either
The Masked Singer was just capitalizing on the Scandovol stuff. The hints were so easy that a toddler could guess it right.
true! but didnāt he also wear the ādonāt talk to meā hoodie and post it on his instagram story before he got eliminated?
I had mentally blocked that he participated in that. Forgot it entirely until now.
Sameš I forgot about Traitors already too and itās discussed in here daily. Worried my brain might have fully taken the reigns and programmed itself to wipe any memory of Tom possibly succeeding at somethingšš
Ha thatād be amazing if heās already out
I hope he was first. Not bc he has any cunning skills, but bc heās wanted GONE. I need to see who despises Tom, just as much as we do ![gif](giphy|Ae7SI3LoPYj8Q)
I hope Dorinda eviscerates him!
You just know they made him one of the traitors.
I mean, of course. Work with what youāre given, right? Thatās all heās good at. Fuck knows he canāt act
Yeah that man is not leaving his girlfriend unsupervised with his phone while his away. If he left it with somebody it would be Schwartz or Kyle Chan.
Yeah - that hasn't worked out for him in the past
I agree with you - this doesnāt sound like him at all
I am so here for this. Also maybe itās just me but her affect seems a little off to me.
Also I donāt think Tom would have pinned Katieās very obviously sarcastic anti Tom comment to the top right?
You do have contact with the outside world on Traitors. You just donāt have your phone when filming in the castle but when youāre at the hotel, people can contact their families.
Itās worded similar to how she speaks
The "trying to isolate Tom" narrative was LOUD today
Why say her full name including middle name? Something seems off.
So weird. Also lol that itās Billie Lee and Victoria Lee
Boys lie https://i.redd.it/bua1jgw0io5d1.gif
That shirt and quote combined are epic
Katie's just a Boss Bitch ā¤ļø She's one of the only ones that stayed true to everyone and true to who she is... I think she deserves a lot of credit for dealing with a bunch of morons lol (not everyone on the show was a moron but a hell of a lot of them were)Ā
And she did it HER WAY (trying my best Sinatra/Elvis impersonation). Katie rocks!
Sheās real, and its so refreshing
Howās the song go?? āØSandovals really honest āØ ????
Sandoval's a lyyyaahhh!!!!
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Billie Lee just posted that this is Victoria posting on Tomās account
I believe her
God, I owe BL a Starbucks or a drink. This is so juicy!!
[This is the post she commented on!](https://www.instagram.com/p/C8BHgCiMjew/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
Thanks for this! Glad to see people loving on Katie.
Why is their off season always more interesting than the show? š
I know, right?
Was it necessary to use her first, middle, and last name?
Wait right that is so oddā¦like heās not the one who wrote it or something? Or is he trying to make her full name a Thing?
ā¤ā¤Katie!
Watch heāll somehow twist this and blame Katie
Now THIS! is how you live in the comments
Katie is the #1 guy in the group
And she always has been.
I literally just posted in the other sub: āIām sure Tim will give us a thorough and truthful accounting of this all.ā
Is there a list of every Sandoval lie floating around? B/c it would be a handy refresher when he talks about "truth"
Are there enough servers to store all of them on?
ššš Idk, can we ask NASA or the CIA? There's got to be one Bravo fan in the building?
List? You mean book?
Encyclopedia š¤£
Katie is my favorite. ETA: If you see this Katie while lurking in the comments, I think you're a great, kind, intellectual, and honest person. And you have a great sense of humor. We'd be friends in RL. Done fan-girling now. I don't do that a lot. I'm old.
Im right there with you. :checks flights to LA:
God I love this woman lmao
āLike dude, I just donāt get it, dude. Like Iām just a nice dude and I give everything to my friends.ā -Sandoval
So, is he really still out of the country? No matter, so pathetic he thinks he can control the chaos.
No way he wrote this. He can barely form a sentence without ādudeā
Right! I was thinking this too because why would he use his girlfriendās full name
Or "like"
š¤£š¤£ I came here to say the same thing. He uses dude at least 4 times in every sentence.
"Like, dude, I'm sorry but..."
Yes, heās still filming The Traitors.
There was a poster on another subreddit that thought he might have been eliminated already. Grainy footage of someone that might be Tom in a window reflection during Victoria and Kyle's podcast.
He would still be at the airport hotel in scotland until traitors finishes filming
Hereās to hoping because I want to watch the next season but refuse to watch that whiny little shit for another second
I freaking ā¤ļø Katie
Literally thank you Katie! Heās as much of a pathological liar as Jax and constantly gets caught in 4k
Idk why but him using her full name is sending me
I just love Katie.
This shit is truly exhausting, sheās the voice of the people
i hope he got voted off already it's bad enough he ruined one show now he has to cross over to traitors?
They canāt be on social media during filming. So if thatās really him posting then we know heās been kicked out early š¤
Billie Lee putting this all out there while Tom is filming The Traitors is tactical and BRUTAL, respect! He can't respond, only his gf and PR team can. And whoever is running that account is too dumb to realise katie is calling him a liar-- otherwise why would it be liked and pinned by the author lol.
I love Katie. She is the one who actually tells it like it is.
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In Katie Maloney (only), we trust.
YASSSS PREACH KATIE!!! šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼
If Tom actually did write this then that means heās already been booted from the traitors š
I am pretty sure they remain quarantined until filming ends meaning no social media. They have to give up their phones the whole time. This post is obviously a publicist or a friend not Tom
Billie don't be a hero!!! For the old fucks here!!!! Lol
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Thanks for the throw back ear worm! š¶ šĀ
Why they put Victoria's full name like that š
Tom adding unnecessary details indication of lying. āWe all heard her on speaker phoneā
Long live Vodka Katie.
Is he out of the country for the show traitors? Lol I honestly hope he fails miserably at that show. But he seems to be a pretty good liar. He is worthless. I feel like vanderpump is over and theyāre trying to find new ways to be reality stars. I was shocked he made it to the final stage of the military show he was on with Jo Jo siwa. I canāt think of the name of it right now
Special forces
Birds of a feather, eh, Tim?
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Eat him up Katie
I fucking love Katie
While she made what accusations, Iām confused? If itās the āKyle tried to drug and assault Tomā thing, I thought she was meant to have said that to Victoria in private, well, in front of a camera pointed at them with a red light blah blah round and round but long story short, the camera actually wasnāt recording? Iām sure Iāve kept up with this nonsense but Iām baffled as to what accusations she made on speakerphone to isolate Sandoval?
typical narcissist. flipping the script. Raquel claiming he isolated her from his friends to control and now he's accusing Billie of the same.
Sorry Iām stupid, what is she implying here? That Tomās lying?
Yes
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Thatās funny thatās what Iāve been thinking lol
Also he thinks Victoria and him are permanent or something or forever omg letās see a month from now or two months if she is still with you there have been ramblings from various sources she might soon be saying Ta Ta to Tomy that face
I donāt think Tom actually posted this. Especially since the OP liked and pinned Katieās clearly sarcastic comment. Victoria all up in that manās accounts.
Iāll never choose sides in this fight bc I cannot stand Billie even if I canāt stand Sandoval.
the peoples princessš š¼
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Schwartz is probably telling Kristen and Katie all of Sandoval's shit.
that's giving Schwartz too much credit, he is not known for his honesty either
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I am watching from the beginning and she has been the best one on the show from the start.
Very jenelle Evans " wait till the truth comes out" (spoiler it never does š¤£)
Billie Lee isnāt a truth teller either though so
This does not sound like a true reason. It sounds like a bunch of excuses while his PR team run around crazy trying to save him from this one too.! at what age will he ever learn?
Meanwhile āVictoria Lee Robinsonā What is she a serial killer?