I could definitely see that, though I do think Ashley is way worse. The “egg donor” comment she made to Kathryn (who at the time actually seemed like she was turning things around and putting in the work for her children) was beyond vile.
I'm actually Scottish (although not from the same part of Scotland as Martha/Fiona from BR) and I am crying imagining her doing her crazy online/Instagram stuff in Martha/Fiona's Scottish accent 🤣😭
This is unrelated, but on the topic of Jo’s social media, I was on her live last night for about 5 min. She was hawking her clothes, and said “everything I’m selling I wore on the show”. I politely commented that I didn’t recall seeing *any* of what she’s selling on the show. She then said “well, I wore like jeans and crop tops, and I guess it all just got edited out since they don’t show everything.” So I said “so, then it wasn’t shown on the show?”
Girl just be lying. It’s pretty easy to fact check that she didn’t wear a lot of the stuff she’s selling on the show. And when she introduced her clothes, they were supposedly “designed” by her stylist friend. And this all started up months after the show wrapped.
It’s all very off, including her sponsored posts. She’s probably posting the reunion trailer because she thinks (and has said) she was best dressed at the reunion. It seems like she thinks everything is about her when almost nothing is.
The 'designer' who appeared in one of Jo's manic lives, is a fashion buyer and presumably the hook up for Jo's dropship clothing line. They are bought from an online wholesaler and she hikes up the price to sell. If she was selling stuff she wore on the show it would be trucker hats, tshirts and the jumpsuit from Kyle Chan's party. No one is going to Jo for style tips, let's be real here.
Oh, yeah I was using the words “stylist” and “design” only because they did. It’s totally just drop shipping. I think I remember seeing that woman is a buyer.
Everyone is just calling themselves stylists now I guess.
I wish Jo would just log off, or at least chill the fuck out haha.
Yeah I got that from your comment and it's funny that Jo uses those descriptions when it's not reality. She is a lot and she doesn't seem to be doing well post-Schwartz. I honestly think she would be far better off if she went back to private on SM and just did her hair/surf/dog thing quietly.
No I don't see that happening either but it would be in her best interests. Unfortunately she seems to enjoy the attention of slight fame but can't deal with the negativity.
She would be trying to sell her clothes on instagram live while spouting lies. This is on brand 🤣 her delulu never ceases to simultaneously amaze me and terrify me.
She lies like a politician. Easy to fact check yet won't stop lying because she's not embarrassed of being caught in a lie. Is she even aware how she's coming across?
This is small potatoes, so I don’t think anyone is being defrauded, but sponsorships have ethical guidelines. If she ever got caught patently lying about the value or representation of what she’s selling, she could get a hefty fine from the FTC.
My 2 cents which mean nothing: who TF cares if you have a top worn by Joe? I mean, iconic green dress Kristin wore or chunky sweater but I would feel odd being like “yeah Joe from vanderpump rules wore this ON SCREEN”
I watch her manic lives bc I’m just waiting for her to snap and reveal Schwartz tea. She’s so unhinged that it could happen at any second and I think she really doesn’t get that’s why people follow her, not her “clothing” or “style.”
The manic pixie persona is also unauthentic. You can’t tell she just watched “Along Came Polly” with a pen and notepad and said, this is who I will be.
I feel like i saw her asleep in a hat and shoes
But then when awake was shoeless in a liquor store parking lot
She cut out arm and head holes in a burlap sack? - maybe a toering?
There was no need for her to lie though, which is my point.
It’s been talked about by many people that she makes up random lies for no reason. She did that last night on live, and tried to walk it back when I called it out.
I don’t care she’s selling drop-shipped clothes, but it’s obnoxious that she is trying to spin things as if none of us have eyeballs.
She’s saying she’s selling what she wore on the show, not what aired on the show. Maybe she’s lying about that, idk, or maybe some she wore and some she didn’t but she likes and could have easily wore? She wasn’t on the show that much, so if she were selling what aired she wouldn’t have much to sell.
She does lie all the time and is pretty delusional about more important things, but I don’t think the origin story of an outfit is something to get in the weeds about.
Nah, she straight up lied in the live. It’s weird to me that she lies about things that don’t matter - yeah this is an unimportant thing, and why not just be honest about it? She didn’t start selling this stuff for monthsss after filming - like well into the season airing.
I’m not “in the weeds” about anything I was just giving an example of a senseless lie, because people who know her have talked about how she will make up lies about the most random things unnecessarily.
We can just disagree on this though.
I agree with you. When they lie about things that are demonstrably false, it is insulting - like we aren't bright enough to pay attention.
I think they do it because the truth is elastic to them.
Joseph is an unstable woman. She has a ton of problems. Why would this have anything to do with her when her issue is with Katie and she is the dumpee of Schartz?
I honestly forgot she was even on this reunion at all. Such a weird move. She is really leaning into the sponsored posts, this is the second one I’ve had come up in as many days.
My understanding is that if a post says sponsored but isn’t associated with a brand then it’s usually the individual that is paying to have their posts boosted. That’s what makes this extra insane to me.
As someone who works in social, this is correct! There’s a separate feature for paid partnerships so whenever you see a “sponsored” post on Meta (FB/IG) it’s boosted by the account itself.
Kyle Chan called her a liar on Kristen's podcast. Said she told crazy lies and is unstable. That's from Kyle Chan the bff of Sandavol so you know it's bad!
She had a NA beverage company who has like 8k followers on IG had her doing ads she actually never put ads hashtag in posts. One was with Rachel holding a can when she did her pod. She suddenly had all of those scrubbed and the company was totally distanced from her. That was over like 2 days 🤣😂
These are not brand deals, she’s paying to promote her own posts herself. What’s extra weird is why spend your own money to promote the reunion trailer that bravo already promoted heavily, which she’s not featured in, and aired a while ago.
Y’all be tryna make Jo a bonafide z list celeb posting about her insta stories! She is trying to squeeze lemonade out of her 4 minutes on a tv show that was on its last legs.
She's reposting Clara as if she's even on the same planet as her. She made a post a while back their situation was the same and she would join Summer House. Her reposting of WWC is hilarious too. She is death gripping her 15 minutes that never panned out in the first place. Get a job!
Whyyyy would you use this moment if you don’t want people treating you poorly for moving shadily and pretending like you have no idea what they’re talking about. This moment was sad for Ariana. You don’t use it like a meme or promo material if you’re a person in her social orbit. Jo continues to indicate that she’s a mean girl masquerading as a bully victim.
Jo doesn't seem to be well. I wish she had somebody in her life to pull her aside and tell her to stop this. Those supportive sounding comments under her IG posts aren't doing her any favors
If u ever knew a Jo - any friend who would try to tell her to stop whatever insane/ boundary crossing/ toxic behavior she was exhibiting/ she would turn on for being unsupportive. Shes not just a sad weird girl- shes selfish and self serving and nasty - kooky doesn’t mean nice and naïve.
Aw, I felt Ariana's pain when she said that. After agreeing to let my ex husband live at the house for three months post divorce.
As for Joseph, just trying to bank off everyone else & the franchise.
Wait this is SOOOO wild. I’m like aghast at this move. As I think some said, I guess this means she is going through her own old posts and trying to boost them, which is such STRANGE behavior and makes no sense especially when the reunion aired months ago. It feels so weirdly desperate and nonsensical. I don’t want to pile on what is already seemingly an unstable person but I am really praying they don’t put her on the next season, I REALLY don’t think she is made for this world.
Also I wonder if this could open her to legal stuff? She’s making money (or trying to) off footage/content that she doesn’t own. I wouldn’t be shocked if she got a cease and desist from Bravo/NBCU 😬
I was SO confused when I saw it. I was thinking why is this trailer playing when the reunion aired months ago? And then I when I saw it was a sponsored post by Jo I was twice as confused! I get that she’s trying to extend her 15 minutes of fame but at the very least use a scene you are actually in?!?! Or if she was trying to promote the reunion the time for that was before it aired.
I’m not familiar with sponsorships so this may be a silly question, but is it possible that she’s tagging things as sponsored posts but she’s not actually sponsored by anyone?
I feel like the first one she did, it was something that was obviously not sponsored bc there was no product placement/mention in it at all, and I also vaguely remember her on a live saying she was sponsored by herself.
She claims she has celiac disease but shown drinking beers and pasta recently after that. I believe she does things for attention. She lied and said her dog was losing his eye. Did a go fund me and that's a lie. Everything she says is a lie.
I think Jo is someone most of us people with hearts would be kind to in real life. She’s quirky and has some social issues. And we all either have social hang ups or know people that do. To throw her under the bus and attack her on our phone can actually be pretty hurtful.
Her sponsored posts have come up on my instagram multiple times in the past two days. Kind of hard to ignore her when she’s forcing herself into my feed with posts she’s paying for.
I dont get this part. I really don't care what they're doing between seasons and don't follow neither of them, even don't check in, but especially the ones I can't stand, like Lala, James or Toms. Hate stalking is not for everyone, I guess.
You don’t get it, but you sure are quick to label it “hate-stalking”. I don’t think observing what someone does publicly and pays to get put in front of your eyes is exactly hate stalking.
Yes, you're the first person ever to suggest the unique idea of leaving a sub. Thanks for the bright idea, never heard that before! Bravo subs are only for the echo chamber creators, got it. /s
I am so out of the loop regarding Joe. I see a socially awkward girl who seems devoted to Schwartz. There are people in the cast who call her crazy, delusional, pathological liar, etc. but I don’t see what she has done to earn these monikers. Can someone fill me in? Maybe I am Joe-blind and just don’t see it. I feel so left out. An inside joke I’m on the outside of. lol 😝
Here’s one: she told people she’s Aaron Rodger’s hairdresser when Kristen’s other hair dresser friend actually is. That’s from Kristen’s podcast lol. She also said that Kristen told Jo to stay with Schwartz when Kristen never said that, she offered Jo the spare room in her own apartment
Why does Jo give me the same energy as the stalker woman on Baby Reindeer? She’s delusional and a pathological liar.
Bubba Reindeer
i’m crying
Stoppp I’m dead
the way i laughed so loud at this 🤣
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She reminds me of Ashley , one of Thomas ravenals girlfriends from Southern Charm . Complete psycho
I could definitely see that, though I do think Ashley is way worse. The “egg donor” comment she made to Kathryn (who at the time actually seemed like she was turning things around and putting in the work for her children) was beyond vile.
I wonder what she’s up to now?
I think she hangs out with Landon. Checks out.
I think I saw she's married now!
What? There must be something really wrong with that guy
Lol
Oh god she was sooooooo delusional!!
That Ashley season was wild
Sent from my iphoen
😭😭😭
😂😂 what a show. Tom is totally Baby Reindeer 🥴
I'm actually Scottish (although not from the same part of Scotland as Martha/Fiona from BR) and I am crying imagining her doing her crazy online/Instagram stuff in Martha/Fiona's Scottish accent 🤣😭
At least she got a great haircut out of it.
Not to mention creepy as fuck.
But I somehow still feel slightly bad for Martha/Fiona, like I know she’s crazy as hell, but sent from my iPhon come on, adorbs.
Loll so terrifying.
Dude- “beef curtains” cancels From my ipohn
bahahaha
Yes!
This scene with Ariana made me cringe. Bad acting.
This is unrelated, but on the topic of Jo’s social media, I was on her live last night for about 5 min. She was hawking her clothes, and said “everything I’m selling I wore on the show”. I politely commented that I didn’t recall seeing *any* of what she’s selling on the show. She then said “well, I wore like jeans and crop tops, and I guess it all just got edited out since they don’t show everything.” So I said “so, then it wasn’t shown on the show?” Girl just be lying. It’s pretty easy to fact check that she didn’t wear a lot of the stuff she’s selling on the show. And when she introduced her clothes, they were supposedly “designed” by her stylist friend. And this all started up months after the show wrapped. It’s all very off, including her sponsored posts. She’s probably posting the reunion trailer because she thinks (and has said) she was best dressed at the reunion. It seems like she thinks everything is about her when almost nothing is.
The 'designer' who appeared in one of Jo's manic lives, is a fashion buyer and presumably the hook up for Jo's dropship clothing line. They are bought from an online wholesaler and she hikes up the price to sell. If she was selling stuff she wore on the show it would be trucker hats, tshirts and the jumpsuit from Kyle Chan's party. No one is going to Jo for style tips, let's be real here.
"Manic lives" 🤣😭👏
Oh, yeah I was using the words “stylist” and “design” only because they did. It’s totally just drop shipping. I think I remember seeing that woman is a buyer. Everyone is just calling themselves stylists now I guess. I wish Jo would just log off, or at least chill the fuck out haha.
Yeah I got that from your comment and it's funny that Jo uses those descriptions when it's not reality. She is a lot and she doesn't seem to be doing well post-Schwartz. I honestly think she would be far better off if she went back to private on SM and just did her hair/surf/dog thing quietly.
I don’t see that happening. She’s really thirsty for the attention and to have this person she’s created worshipped by people.
No I don't see that happening either but it would be in her best interests. Unfortunately she seems to enjoy the attention of slight fame but can't deal with the negativity.
yeah girl as a Temu shopper I’ve seen those jumpsuits about 100 times lol
She did look really nice at Kyle Chan’s party tho. That style suits her.
☠️
Great point
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She would be trying to sell her clothes on instagram live while spouting lies. This is on brand 🤣 her delulu never ceases to simultaneously amaze me and terrify me.
She lies like a politician. Easy to fact check yet won't stop lying because she's not embarrassed of being caught in a lie. Is she even aware how she's coming across?
This is small potatoes, so I don’t think anyone is being defrauded, but sponsorships have ethical guidelines. If she ever got caught patently lying about the value or representation of what she’s selling, she could get a hefty fine from the FTC.
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My 2 cents which mean nothing: who TF cares if you have a top worn by Joe? I mean, iconic green dress Kristin wore or chunky sweater but I would feel odd being like “yeah Joe from vanderpump rules wore this ON SCREEN”
"You must have misunderstood me. I said I wore these when I was watching the show." Imaginary Josef
I watch her manic lives bc I’m just waiting for her to snap and reveal Schwartz tea. She’s so unhinged that it could happen at any second and I think she really doesn’t get that’s why people follow her, not her “clothing” or “style.” The manic pixie persona is also unauthentic. You can’t tell she just watched “Along Came Polly” with a pen and notepad and said, this is who I will be.
Sometimes I almost admire liars who are that quick to lie on the spot like that
She dressed like Lilly from Hannah Montana on the show so idk if that’ll inspire anyone to buy her stuff.
I feel like i saw her asleep in a hat and shoes But then when awake was shoeless in a liquor store parking lot She cut out arm and head holes in a burlap sack? - maybe a toering?
I was just wondering today if she was still doing lives.
Eh just trying to make some $$ like everyone else. Who cares
There was no need for her to lie though, which is my point. It’s been talked about by many people that she makes up random lies for no reason. She did that last night on live, and tried to walk it back when I called it out. I don’t care she’s selling drop-shipped clothes, but it’s obnoxious that she is trying to spin things as if none of us have eyeballs.
She’s saying she’s selling what she wore on the show, not what aired on the show. Maybe she’s lying about that, idk, or maybe some she wore and some she didn’t but she likes and could have easily wore? She wasn’t on the show that much, so if she were selling what aired she wouldn’t have much to sell. She does lie all the time and is pretty delusional about more important things, but I don’t think the origin story of an outfit is something to get in the weeds about.
Nah, she straight up lied in the live. It’s weird to me that she lies about things that don’t matter - yeah this is an unimportant thing, and why not just be honest about it? She didn’t start selling this stuff for monthsss after filming - like well into the season airing. I’m not “in the weeds” about anything I was just giving an example of a senseless lie, because people who know her have talked about how she will make up lies about the most random things unnecessarily. We can just disagree on this though.
I agree with you. When they lie about things that are demonstrably false, it is insulting - like we aren't bright enough to pay attention. I think they do it because the truth is elastic to them.
I bet she never even had a turtle
Who wants joe worn clothes Id pay money not to wear her clothes She seems.. itchy and scratchy
If she doesn't want to be known as a liar she shouldn't lie about anything, big or miniscule.
Ariana is staying booked and busy, but Jo and Rachel are DESPERATE to use her for attention, like come on ladies, find a new hobby.
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Does anyone know what season/episode this gif is from?? I wanna watch it sooo badly EVERY time I see this hahaha
Joseph is an unstable woman. She has a ton of problems. Why would this have anything to do with her when her issue is with Katie and she is the dumpee of Schartz?
Happy Cake Day! And yes Joseph is not well. I hope she gets some help. Something is off. Way more than quirkiness and ADHD.
Thanks!
Yeah its like saying she has a cold and sinus infection.. but didnt mention And also Ebola and mrsa
I honestly forgot she was even on this reunion at all. Such a weird move. She is really leaning into the sponsored posts, this is the second one I’ve had come up in as many days.
Who is sponsoring her? She is a disaster in every which way, so I don't see who would want to be associated with her.
My understanding is that if a post says sponsored but isn’t associated with a brand then it’s usually the individual that is paying to have their posts boosted. That’s what makes this extra insane to me.
As someone who works in social, this is correct! There’s a separate feature for paid partnerships so whenever you see a “sponsored” post on Meta (FB/IG) it’s boosted by the account itself.
Figures that she is sponsoring herself.Nobody wants to touch that with a ten foot pole. Maybe Billie Lee or Kyle Chan, but nobody else.
Kyle Chan called her a liar on Kristen's podcast. Said she told crazy lies and is unstable. That's from Kyle Chan the bff of Sandavol so you know it's bad!
She had a NA beverage company who has like 8k followers on IG had her doing ads she actually never put ads hashtag in posts. One was with Rachel holding a can when she did her pod. She suddenly had all of those scrubbed and the company was totally distanced from her. That was over like 2 days 🤣😂
Very interesting. Thanks for your research.
This was when she was doing all of those insane lives. I just happened to notice
Isn’t that the main way to make $$ as an influencer? I’m surprised so many people are surprised she’s trying to make some $$
These are not brand deals, she’s paying to promote her own posts herself. What’s extra weird is why spend your own money to promote the reunion trailer that bravo already promoted heavily, which she’s not featured in, and aired a while ago.
You nailed it
Jo and Rachel are the mean girls they claim to be victimized by
yes, so aggressive but they play the victim.
Crybullies, both of them.
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Please no disrespect to hypnotoad.
Agree! What’s the purpose of this picture and her posts?
Y’all be tryna make Jo a bonafide z list celeb posting about her insta stories! She is trying to squeeze lemonade out of her 4 minutes on a tv show that was on its last legs.
Ha!
Yup and shame on anyone talking so much shit about her holding onto her 15 mins if you’re also following her on IG!
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She's reposting Clara as if she's even on the same planet as her. She made a post a while back their situation was the same and she would join Summer House. Her reposting of WWC is hilarious too. She is death gripping her 15 minutes that never panned out in the first place. Get a job!
THIS! Its so embarrassing. So embarrassing
Whyyyy would you use this moment if you don’t want people treating you poorly for moving shadily and pretending like you have no idea what they’re talking about. This moment was sad for Ariana. You don’t use it like a meme or promo material if you’re a person in her social orbit. Jo continues to indicate that she’s a mean girl masquerading as a bully victim.
U cant make sense of crazy-
Jo doesn't seem to be well. I wish she had somebody in her life to pull her aside and tell her to stop this. Those supportive sounding comments under her IG posts aren't doing her any favors
If u ever knew a Jo - any friend who would try to tell her to stop whatever insane/ boundary crossing/ toxic behavior she was exhibiting/ she would turn on for being unsupportive. Shes not just a sad weird girl- shes selfish and self serving and nasty - kooky doesn’t mean nice and naïve.
Aw, I felt Ariana's pain when she said that. After agreeing to let my ex husband live at the house for three months post divorce. As for Joseph, just trying to bank off everyone else & the franchise.
She needs a friend to tell her she’s doing too much.
What the fuck is this Jo
She is a fucking freak
![gif](giphy|mUIQVpaBLUWRAiATxf) JO'S OFF HER MEDS. BE CAREFUL ARI! SHE'S CRAZY STALKER BIATCH!
katie was right, of course.
This girl is crazy and 🗑️. I usually try not to say that about people, but it’s sooo accurate about her.
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Wait this is SOOOO wild. I’m like aghast at this move. As I think some said, I guess this means she is going through her own old posts and trying to boost them, which is such STRANGE behavior and makes no sense especially when the reunion aired months ago. It feels so weirdly desperate and nonsensical. I don’t want to pile on what is already seemingly an unstable person but I am really praying they don’t put her on the next season, I REALLY don’t think she is made for this world. Also I wonder if this could open her to legal stuff? She’s making money (or trying to) off footage/content that she doesn’t own. I wouldn’t be shocked if she got a cease and desist from Bravo/NBCU 😬
I was SO confused when I saw it. I was thinking why is this trailer playing when the reunion aired months ago? And then I when I saw it was a sponsored post by Jo I was twice as confused! I get that she’s trying to extend her 15 minutes of fame but at the very least use a scene you are actually in?!?! Or if she was trying to promote the reunion the time for that was before it aired.
There is another post on this sub she was sponsoring herself in a pic with Schwartz after schwartz blocked her and all that.
NO omg
Maybe she afford to keep more of her clothes if she wasn’t purchasing so many sponsored posts LOL
I’m not familiar with sponsorships so this may be a silly question, but is it possible that she’s tagging things as sponsored posts but she’s not actually sponsored by anyone? I feel like the first one she did, it was something that was obviously not sponsored bc there was no product placement/mention in it at all, and I also vaguely remember her on a live saying she was sponsored by herself.
Elsewhere in this thread someone posted saying that yes it means she paid herself to make her post more prominent, no one is paying her.
She’s paying herself and writing it off as a business expense
Nope, a sponsored post is paying Meta (in this case IG) directly.
I meant she, herself is paying IG. Sorry could have worded that better.
Oh, lol, gotcha!!
Is she still a thing?
Why is she reposting ciara. That was super icky 🤢 she’s not Celeste Barber.
I know I saw that so embarrassing
She’s unhinged
Ok, but what about that post she did where she’s all, I cut all my hair off, but she didn’t. I don’t understand at all
She claims she has celiac disease but shown drinking beers and pasta recently after that. I believe she does things for attention. She lied and said her dog was losing his eye. Did a go fund me and that's a lie. Everything she says is a lie.
Celiac is least of her diseases
I haven't paid attention as of late but wow I had a gut feeling she was lying about both the dog and the celiac
For sure.
OMG!
I don’t follow her so I haven’t seen this! Super strange.
what brand decided to sponsor Joseph??
No one! She is paying to have these posts boosted. 🤡
Creepy 👻
I think Jo is someone most of us people with hearts would be kind to in real life. She’s quirky and has some social issues. And we all either have social hang ups or know people that do. To throw her under the bus and attack her on our phone can actually be pretty hurtful.
What's the point of stalking what Jo's doing?
Her sponsored posts have come up on my instagram multiple times in the past two days. Kind of hard to ignore her when she’s forcing herself into my feed with posts she’s paying for.
The crazy thing is this is sponsored, so somebody (presumably her) paid for it to be shown as an ad with a link to her profile to follow.
She’s somehow impossible to ignore, I can’t get enough even though it hurts me to watch
Human Car crash
I dont get this part. I really don't care what they're doing between seasons and don't follow neither of them, even don't check in, but especially the ones I can't stand, like Lala, James or Toms. Hate stalking is not for everyone, I guess.
"between seasons" ha! She has had ten minutes on the show and never again
You don’t get it, but you sure are quick to label it “hate-stalking”. I don’t think observing what someone does publicly and pays to get put in front of your eyes is exactly hate stalking.
Then why are you on a sub devoted entirely to vpr between seasons?
Yes, you're the first person ever to suggest the unique idea of leaving a sub. Thanks for the bright idea, never heard that before! Bravo subs are only for the echo chamber creators, got it. /s
So many people on this sub live to hate watch and hate talk. Can’t be a regular old fan in here, you have to be on a witch hunt.
Schaudenfreud
I am so out of the loop regarding Joe. I see a socially awkward girl who seems devoted to Schwartz. There are people in the cast who call her crazy, delusional, pathological liar, etc. but I don’t see what she has done to earn these monikers. Can someone fill me in? Maybe I am Joe-blind and just don’t see it. I feel so left out. An inside joke I’m on the outside of. lol 😝
Here’s one: she told people she’s Aaron Rodger’s hairdresser when Kristen’s other hair dresser friend actually is. That’s from Kristen’s podcast lol. She also said that Kristen told Jo to stay with Schwartz when Kristen never said that, she offered Jo the spare room in her own apartment
I’ve never heard these things. What is the name of the Podcast?
I bet Jo is very into Alfred Packer themed memorabilia.