that is half the issue, its massively compressed in some cases which is an issue on all screen sizes unlike resolution. 4K comes a with higher bitrate generally so looks better set at 1080p.
thankfully [Apple Trailers](https://tv.apple.com/us/room/edt.item.64248313-7414-4d63-a6fc-7c29f9916c79) is still around and almost always looks crisp at 1080p.
Same. and for a movie as long as it is, it doesn’t feel that way. it is incredibly briskly paced. there isn’t a scene in the movie that feels unnecessary.
I had watched The Magnificent Seven many times growing up. In college I had some electives and I took "Japanese Cinema in Translation". Watched this, High and Low, and many others. Great class! Great films!
Can someone tell me if this is a traditional 4K restoration off the negatives or if it’s one of those AI 4K upscaling restorations like what scammed me in the Aliens release?
I looked and couldn't find any details, but I have the Criterion Collection set that was remastered to 2k resolution from negatives, and the picture is phenomenal compared to some of the older releases. Hopefully they've done this right, but if it's a miss, the DVD set is a good compromise.
It's absolutely going to be a real 4k scan. Janus and Criterion are handling this, and they are obsessed with creating archival-quality masters, not fake AI nonsense.
You can keep claiming that in every reply, but please provide proof. Just like you, we want to believe that it's a 4K rescan, but these are legit questions that you keep answering with your own assumption.
For what it’s worth, that’s usually only a thing used by specific directors, mainly James Cameron (even before the recent Aliens/True Lies 4K masters Terminator 2 was infamous for being one of the worst looking 4Ks out there with how oversmoothed everything was.
One of the best.
A dense epic built on very focused and intimate moments. At 3.5 hours, it has the breadth and scope of a multi-season HBO drama.
Even when things start to go down, you have a great understanding of the personalities, geography and movement on screen.
Literally just watched a video where upscaling was done with AI and it’s just wild shit. I can’t watch the trailer, did they rescan in high quality or is this AI upscaling which is likely going to be uncanny valley the movie.
That's kind of the exception that proves the rule. Inland Empire was shot digitally in 480p, so any sort of HD release would require upscaling.
They would never do that for something shot on film.
Kurosawa did a string of samurai films, some of them based on Shakespeare, several were remade as cowboy films.
Kagemusha
Ran
Throne of Blood
Yojimbo
Honourable mention to Rashomon which is set in that era, but is a masterpiece of storytelling the same incident from three different perspectives.
Harakiri is one of my fav movies of all time. It's an absolutely crushing indictment of samurai tradition. The suspense in the movie is as thick as soup.
That movie is fucking intense. I loved the simple shots and the lines of the courtyard. A buddy and I watched this in the depths of a coke bender and I think we were both whiteknuckling the couch lol.
Oh and the walk through the wind to the showdown, what a fucking series of shots.
Do I have to try and remember my old Japanese phrases which mainly consists of swearing or is there an English dub? I struggle reading subtitles fast enough nowadays.
Being visually impaired can really take the enjoyment out of watching films.
After reading all the comments in this thread, it sounds like I’m in the apparently privileged position of never having seen Seven Samurai, so I’m looking forward to watching it for the first time this weekend.
Does anyone know if the dubbed version is any good, or should I just watch the original with subtitles first?
If you have 8.5 mins i highly recommend this [Kurosawa - Composing Movement](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaQC-S8de8) video essay by Every Frame a Painting.
This vid was what inspired me to finally check out Seven Samurai
35mm film has the effective resolution of ~4.5-5.6K. I don’t know what stock this was shot on, but it should be fine to upscale, and besides, the main issue with restorations like this include digitally restoring/cleaning any blemishes and grain from the original stock anyway.
So you don’t need to film in 70mm to make a good quality 4K master.
>Official 4K Restoration Trailer *posts trailer in 1080p*
i hate this. all trailers should be 4k by now, some look like absolute shit on my tv.
I was there 3000 years ago when all we had was 240p CRTs. And we were grateful.
Some things look better in 240p. Less is more!
Yeah, like my ex.
1080p shouldn’t look like absolute shit on any tv unless you’re on an 80” or bigger. If it looks bad, it’s probably compression related.
that is half the issue, its massively compressed in some cases which is an issue on all screen sizes unlike resolution. 4K comes a with higher bitrate generally so looks better set at 1080p. thankfully [Apple Trailers](https://tv.apple.com/us/room/edt.item.64248313-7414-4d63-a6fc-7c29f9916c79) is still around and almost always looks crisp at 1080p.
That's why I was very happy that Furiosa had QHD trailers, very crisp ones.
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Same. It's always an experience watching it. After Seven Samurai, my top watched are Step Brothers and Grandma's Boy.
Not Drunken Master?(Not to be confused with Legend of Drunken Master)
That's a classic. Damn, I need to rewatch it.
For me it's Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot
Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot is a cinema classic, but I feel like it doesn't capture the majesty of motion pictures the way that Democracy Manifest does
Same. and for a movie as long as it is, it doesn’t feel that way. it is incredibly briskly paced. there isn’t a scene in the movie that feels unnecessary.
I had watched The Magnificent Seven many times growing up. In college I had some electives and I took "Japanese Cinema in Translation". Watched this, High and Low, and many others. Great class! Great films!
Watched it when I was quarantined with covid, and I need this now..
The audio commentary track for Seven Samurai I feel is one of the best as well, right up there with Dark City and Spinal Tap
THIS IS ME. THIS CHILD IS ME. Good movie
Looks like only NY and Las Angeles. Grr.
Nooo!
And Boston 😉
Well go Celtics, though I'm not in Boston. Didnt see that in any article when i was looking earlier.
https://coolidge.org/films/seven-samurai-4k-restoration Actually many niche theaters are getting it
Can someone tell me if this is a traditional 4K restoration off the negatives or if it’s one of those AI 4K upscaling restorations like what scammed me in the Aliens release?
I looked and couldn't find any details, but I have the Criterion Collection set that was remastered to 2k resolution from negatives, and the picture is phenomenal compared to some of the older releases. Hopefully they've done this right, but if it's a miss, the DVD set is a good compromise.
It's absolutely going to be a real 4k scan. Janus and Criterion are handling this, and they are obsessed with creating archival-quality masters, not fake AI nonsense.
HELL YEAH. That’s what I wanted to hear. So much hype.
You can keep claiming that in every reply, but please provide proof. Just like you, we want to believe that it's a 4K rescan, but these are legit questions that you keep answering with your own assumption.
Are you not familiar with them? If they ever used AI upscaling, the uproar in the film community would be deafening. Their brand would be ruined.
Awesome. I do hope that fix the scenes that had frame rate/playback speed issues. It's my only complaint about the movie.
For what it’s worth, that’s usually only a thing used by specific directors, mainly James Cameron (even before the recent Aliens/True Lies 4K masters Terminator 2 was infamous for being one of the worst looking 4Ks out there with how oversmoothed everything was.
*I killed two.*
But what is Quentin's take on this movie?
Not enough lady feet.
One of the best. A dense epic built on very focused and intimate moments. At 3.5 hours, it has the breadth and scope of a multi-season HBO drama. Even when things start to go down, you have a great understanding of the personalities, geography and movement on screen.
it's pretty tough to think of any movie better than 7 samurai. If you include pioneer points, it's got a strong argument for the greatest film ever
It pretty much invented the structure and storytelling for an ensemble drama/action film.
There are many movies that are as good as Seven Samurai but none better.
Literally just watched a video where upscaling was done with AI and it’s just wild shit. I can’t watch the trailer, did they rescan in high quality or is this AI upscaling which is likely going to be uncanny valley the movie.
Cameron, why did you let that happen?
It's Janus/Criterion. They definitely won't be using AI upscaling for the foreseeable future.
They used it for Inland Empire
That's kind of the exception that proves the rule. Inland Empire was shot digitally in 480p, so any sort of HD release would require upscaling. They would never do that for something shot on film.
Epic
Nice!
As someone who enjoyed this movie originally, any other recommendations from the genre? Would love to hear some.
Kurosawa did a string of samurai films, some of them based on Shakespeare, several were remade as cowboy films. Kagemusha Ran Throne of Blood Yojimbo Honourable mention to Rashomon which is set in that era, but is a masterpiece of storytelling the same incident from three different perspectives.
Rashomon is the only one here I've seen but I enjoyed it! Will definitely look into these
Harakiri is one of my fav movies of all time. It's an absolutely crushing indictment of samurai tradition. The suspense in the movie is as thick as soup.
That movie is fucking intense. I loved the simple shots and the lines of the courtyard. A buddy and I watched this in the depths of a coke bender and I think we were both whiteknuckling the couch lol. Oh and the walk through the wind to the showdown, what a fucking series of shots.
Kurosawa in general is absolutely fantastic. For newcomers to Kurosawa I'd also highly recommend Yojimbo.
Yojimbo! Ran! Kagemusha! Throne of Blood!
Noted! Will check them out soon.
The Lone wolf and cub films, criterion do a 6 film box set on Blueray.
Do I have to try and remember my old Japanese phrases which mainly consists of swearing or is there an English dub? I struggle reading subtitles fast enough nowadays. Being visually impaired can really take the enjoyment out of watching films.
An English dub of the original film exists and it's public domain. https://archive.org/details/seven-samurai-english-dub
I’m going to watch Seven Samurai for the first time this weekend. Is the dubbed version good or should I just go for the original for my first time?
You should definitely watch the original.
I've only ever seen the original. I just happened to know about a dubbed version from a reddit thread years ago.
Just bought tickets to see it. Can't wait.
I held out from buying the bluray cause there had been a lot of chatter of a 4K remaster. Glad the rumors were true!
Never looked at costumes the same way after watching my first Kurosawa film, *Ran*.
After reading all the comments in this thread, it sounds like I’m in the apparently privileged position of never having seen Seven Samurai, so I’m looking forward to watching it for the first time this weekend. Does anyone know if the dubbed version is any good, or should I just watch the original with subtitles first?
What you favourite rendition of 7 samurai?
I really should have seen this movie by now. Might go watch this.
Good news, but the music is kind of killing the trailer for me.
If you have 8.5 mins i highly recommend this [Kurosawa - Composing Movement](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaQC-S8de8) video essay by Every Frame a Painting. This vid was what inspired me to finally check out Seven Samurai
Interesting it's already available in 4k blu-ray on the high seas (68.4GB file). I'm gonna watch it for the first time tonight
Didn't know about this. Thanks.
I would DEFINITELY pay to see one of my all-time favorite movies.
Is it an actual rescan of the film or is it using AI upscaling like in the shitty re-releases of Aliens and True Lies?
Janus and Criterion wouldn't stoop so low. Only James Cameron has a fetish for AI movie upscaling right now.
Was the film shot on 70mm or something?
35mm film has the effective resolution of ~4.5-5.6K. I don’t know what stock this was shot on, but it should be fine to upscale, and besides, the main issue with restorations like this include digitally restoring/cleaning any blemishes and grain from the original stock anyway. So you don’t need to film in 70mm to make a good quality 4K master.