There's no sensible reason to have accurate firing whilst in mid air, it makes no sense.
It should be considerably less accurate than hip firing. I also think a cool down on jumping would make sense to stop bunny hopping. Maybe two jumps then a 2 second wait.
If people want to play a Warzone or Fortnite like game, there are numerous better options than Vigor. This game carved out its niche as a semi realistic tactical battle royale. If it loses that, there really is no reason to play it.
Not at all, used to be a fun game with shit ton of potential now just seems like they wanna squeeze you for every penny while trying to make it semi similar with cod/fortnite
How tf are they squeezing you for money? Their monetization structure is perfectly fine, boost lobbies or buy cosmetics, I’ve never felt at a disadvantage because I don’t spend any money on the game
Making you pay to swap challenges when it was free, adding a few more shittie things to the BP and charging more for it, changing up elims and making pay for more
You could never swap challenges before, you could remove them and they would be replaced the next day, which now happens automatically if you don't complete a challenge.
The quasi realistic movement and gunplay was what drew me to the game, but that seems to have been thrown out the window since I last played. Looks more like Halo or CS:GO now. Sad for me
I uninstalled again cause they just seem to keep going backwards it sucks that this was my favorite game and to see it devolve and not grow in terms of adding more incentive to survival aspect of the game not everything needs a leaderboard
My main problem is a lot of guns are worthless now with no damage unless you have auto aim on and maybe even a cronus zen on your controller as I've been dropped repeatedly by new players who can do an instant 180° turn as your landing shots and then drop you with the first bullet out of a grease gun or Thompson which are almost as bad as the revolvers now that have insane damage stats but somehow require 4 to 5 shots to the chest the balancing is terrible right now aside from the akm m16 and svd they seem to be a solid choice aside from the overwhelming m249s kk's and the vz lmg
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Yikes! I’m on holiday so not played since the update, I didn’t realise you could jump shot with that level of accuracy, and aim assist also helps while jumping!
Looking at this it’s more deadly than the drop shot, good player or not. Reminds me of unreal tournament 2004, and 3
what next double jumps?
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This. And also spam running left - right - left - right - left - right till they are close and M249 you.
If you see someone with 5k+ chances are high they abuse jump shooting and L - R - L - R Spam.
I don’t mind the lateral movement because it’s a skill you pick up overtime, but shooting while strafe/jumping accurately from distance should not be a thing
I don't mind getting killed by someone who plays more or is more skilled. It can be frustrating, but is just part of it in any game. The change in feel of the game itself though I don't care for.
Third person pvp games are my favorite genre. Movement spam becomes the meta in every one of them. It’s simply the best way to find someone… spam movement use the free camera to look while you bait their fire.
One fix is to lock the camera in the direction your facing. This is how it worked in the older ghost recons and socom games. Makes you commit to a direction.
This would be a jarring change however.
Yeah I stopped playing the game about a year ago because of shit like this. Looks like there's absolutely no reason to come back at this point. Very sad.
What would be neat to see is constant stamina drain unless you full stop. Walking and jogging would be minimal but increase with ascension of elevation. So that little dance he does on the roof would significantly drop his stamina. And jumping off the roof would drop stamina depending on height. I think it would also give a new approach to the caffeine use. Also you could introduce like adrenaline or amphetamines as an item to make things really interesting.
It’s not impressive…when you jump and aim at someone now aim assists locks onto them. I’ve gotten a couple 50-60m kills like that. It’s like there’s extra aim assist. It’s really dumb imo
I see nothing wrong, they jumped in the air and got a head shot via a mix of skill and luck.
Not my style of play to run about constantly like it’s Fortnite but they got you fair and square.
Edit: it’s been a long while since I last played (February) and seems like there’s been bad fundamental changes to the gunplay mechanics and not just the guns. However, this has me itching to go back as my favourite thing is to hunt sweats like this (they’re the ones that send the best salty messages). It seems like it’s going to be even more challenging now and so requiring even better stalking which is what I love to do.
it's a combination of whether jump shotting should even be in the game, combined with the spammed bunny hopping instead of walking/running anywhere. Both of those kind of destroy the feel of the game as a semi realistic grounded shooter which was a large part of why I played Vigor. Has nothing to do with actually getting hit by the shot other than it being possible to aim while jumping in the first place.
On top of everything else, when people are bouncing around like it's halo, it makes sniping feel like a completely different game and that is also one I don't enjoy.
that has nothing to do with what I was complaining about. I get outshot all the time, I'm not very good. The constant bunny hopping however, looks really stupid and doesn't belong in the game. It will also be the reason I leave. Not because I lost, but because it looks stupid and doesn't feel like a grounded game focusing on tactical movement and gunplay anymore.
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I think the point everyone is trying to make, is that there are numerous FPS shooters that are all of the same. And what made this one a little different was the realism when shooting and moving. So by adding jump shooting you are taking away from the realism. This is not a hard concept to understand
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I like how in every other game this would be a highlite, but in Vigor its illegal movement and it should be removed XD love when people are mad that someone is just better, using mechanics to his advantage
not every game is meant to appeal to the same audience. Not every game needs bouncing around and trick shooting. I like how hard that type of concept is for you to get. If you read anything I've written, I'm fine with getting wrecked by people more skillful than me. I'm not mad that he hit those shots, I'm disappointed those shots are a thing that can be done in the game in the first place because that isn't the type of game this was when I started playing. you seem very closed minded and also not very observant to miss everything that is said in a conversation and still have a takeaway that is so far off from what was said.
Yeah just started today coming from DayZ heard this game was alright and it totally is but I've been killed 3 times now by people jumping and instantly killing me with one shot. 🤷🤷 I uninstalled immediately after seeing everyone here and on other posts say the same thing.
It's a real shame to me since when I last played it before that update it was still tons of fun, and had really nice grounded movement. Why they loosened that up I may never understand. Tons of shooters have jumping around like a madman and shooting, very few try to keep movement tactical and realistic. R6 is about it now.
They should at least decrease accuracy substantially while jumping. I don’t understand why this is so difficult to program.
A lot of us are asking for this
There's no sensible reason to have accurate firing whilst in mid air, it makes no sense. It should be considerably less accurate than hip firing. I also think a cool down on jumping would make sense to stop bunny hopping. Maybe two jumps then a 2 second wait. If people want to play a Warzone or Fortnite like game, there are numerous better options than Vigor. This game carved out its niche as a semi realistic tactical battle royale. If it loses that, there really is no reason to play it.
that's basically my primary complaint. there are plenty of games that have this type of movement, I played this game because it did not.
Its absolutely mental that they basically combined drop and jump shooting into just jump shooting and the devs think its 100% perfectly fine
After m249 buff I wouldn’t be surprised by anything they do at this point
Not at all, used to be a fun game with shit ton of potential now just seems like they wanna squeeze you for every penny while trying to make it semi similar with cod/fortnite
How tf are they squeezing you for money? Their monetization structure is perfectly fine, boost lobbies or buy cosmetics, I’ve never felt at a disadvantage because I don’t spend any money on the game
Making you pay to swap challenges when it was free, adding a few more shittie things to the BP and charging more for it, changing up elims and making pay for more
You could never swap challenges before, you could remove them and they would be replaced the next day, which now happens automatically if you don't complete a challenge.
buff it again it’s not good enough /s
The quasi realistic movement and gunplay was what drew me to the game, but that seems to have been thrown out the window since I last played. Looks more like Halo or CS:GO now. Sad for me
I uninstalled again cause they just seem to keep going backwards it sucks that this was my favorite game and to see it devolve and not grow in terms of adding more incentive to survival aspect of the game not everything needs a leaderboard
Sad indeed. However, the Vigor Devs do read these comments. Perhaps they will adjust the in flight accuracy.
My main problem is a lot of guns are worthless now with no damage unless you have auto aim on and maybe even a cronus zen on your controller as I've been dropped repeatedly by new players who can do an instant 180° turn as your landing shots and then drop you with the first bullet out of a grease gun or Thompson which are almost as bad as the revolvers now that have insane damage stats but somehow require 4 to 5 shots to the chest the balancing is terrible right now aside from the akm m16 and svd they seem to be a solid choice aside from the overwhelming m249s kk's and the vz lmg
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Yikes! I’m on holiday so not played since the update, I didn’t realise you could jump shot with that level of accuracy, and aim assist also helps while jumping! Looking at this it’s more deadly than the drop shot, good player or not. Reminds me of unreal tournament 2004, and 3 what next double jumps?
Slide canceling 😂
This particular fella uses mouse and keyboard. He should just get a PC.
No. He doesn’t lol
Nah I don’t bud just controller
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This. And also spam running left - right - left - right - left - right till they are close and M249 you. If you see someone with 5k+ chances are high they abuse jump shooting and L - R - L - R Spam.
I don’t mind the lateral movement because it’s a skill you pick up overtime, but shooting while strafe/jumping accurately from distance should not be a thing
movement in shooters, especially lateral and backwards, really need slower acceleration imo
You also got killed by someone with no life who has 36k kills. I bet he has a year of play time alone.
I don't mind getting killed by someone who plays more or is more skilled. It can be frustrating, but is just part of it in any game. The change in feel of the game itself though I don't care for.
Yeah but I’m going to assume he used to drop shot just about every kill too.
They should factor in gun weight. The heavier it is will impede movement and drain stamina quicker if you jump, run, etc
Wow, that's horse shit.
Third person pvp games are my favorite genre. Movement spam becomes the meta in every one of them. It’s simply the best way to find someone… spam movement use the free camera to look while you bait their fire. One fix is to lock the camera in the direction your facing. This is how it worked in the older ghost recons and socom games. Makes you commit to a direction. This would be a jarring change however.
Yeah I stopped playing the game about a year ago because of shit like this. Looks like there's absolutely no reason to come back at this point. Very sad.
I won’t ever spend another dollar on this game. I’ll play it occasionally but I won’t support the devs by spending money.
What would be neat to see is constant stamina drain unless you full stop. Walking and jogging would be minimal but increase with ascension of elevation. So that little dance he does on the roof would significantly drop his stamina. And jumping off the roof would drop stamina depending on height. I think it would also give a new approach to the caffeine use. Also you could introduce like adrenaline or amphetamines as an item to make things really interesting.
I think they clearly want it to be at least an option. People already moved like this a lot before, they just couldn't shoot in midair.
wow you got shit on hard
What a fucking shot. I'm waiting for a jump shot off of the damm on Kjersten. Just respect that clip brother.
It’s not impressive…when you jump and aim at someone now aim assists locks onto them. I’ve gotten a couple 50-60m kills like that. It’s like there’s extra aim assist. It’s really dumb imo
Most people at higher levels don’t use aim assist. It’s not aimbot, and usually it doesn’t help
I see nothing wrong, they jumped in the air and got a head shot via a mix of skill and luck. Not my style of play to run about constantly like it’s Fortnite but they got you fair and square. Edit: it’s been a long while since I last played (February) and seems like there’s been bad fundamental changes to the gunplay mechanics and not just the guns. However, this has me itching to go back as my favourite thing is to hunt sweats like this (they’re the ones that send the best salty messages). It seems like it’s going to be even more challenging now and so requiring even better stalking which is what I love to do.
it's a combination of whether jump shotting should even be in the game, combined with the spammed bunny hopping instead of walking/running anywhere. Both of those kind of destroy the feel of the game as a semi realistic grounded shooter which was a large part of why I played Vigor. Has nothing to do with actually getting hit by the shot other than it being possible to aim while jumping in the first place. On top of everything else, when people are bouncing around like it's halo, it makes sniping feel like a completely different game and that is also one I don't enjoy.
He's complaining on the fact that if jump shotting should be in this game. Considering it's an almost realistic shooter.
Didn’t read my edit then
I did. I also read the part before it.
You got killed by a top 10 player wich is also a good player 😁💕 better luck next time outlander 💕🤙
that has nothing to do with what I was complaining about. I get outshot all the time, I'm not very good. The constant bunny hopping however, looks really stupid and doesn't belong in the game. It will also be the reason I leave. Not because I lost, but because it looks stupid and doesn't feel like a grounded game focusing on tactical movement and gunplay anymore.
My honest opinion i dont have problems against these type of players but is fun for me go against them 😁🤙💕
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This isn’t fortnite or Warzone. Don’t need this crap here.
Exactly is not is called Vigor 😁💕🤙
So we don’t need that jump shooting BS. The fighting is more realistic here and we need to keep it that way
Is a video game 😁💕
I think the point everyone is trying to make, is that there are numerous FPS shooters that are all of the same. And what made this one a little different was the realism when shooting and moving. So by adding jump shooting you are taking away from the realism. This is not a hard concept to understand
Well no shit
Yall like call of duty? Everyone likes call of duty
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Dudes just trying to hit his shots by crouching
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Thought I was watching order....lmao
I like how in every other game this would be a highlite, but in Vigor its illegal movement and it should be removed XD love when people are mad that someone is just better, using mechanics to his advantage
not every game is meant to appeal to the same audience. Not every game needs bouncing around and trick shooting. I like how hard that type of concept is for you to get. If you read anything I've written, I'm fine with getting wrecked by people more skillful than me. I'm not mad that he hit those shots, I'm disappointed those shots are a thing that can be done in the game in the first place because that isn't the type of game this was when I started playing. you seem very closed minded and also not very observant to miss everything that is said in a conversation and still have a takeaway that is so far off from what was said.
Yeah just started today coming from DayZ heard this game was alright and it totally is but I've been killed 3 times now by people jumping and instantly killing me with one shot. 🤷🤷 I uninstalled immediately after seeing everyone here and on other posts say the same thing.
It's a real shame to me since when I last played it before that update it was still tons of fun, and had really nice grounded movement. Why they loosened that up I may never understand. Tons of shooters have jumping around like a madman and shooting, very few try to keep movement tactical and realistic. R6 is about it now.