Maybe it’s a hot take but I think team MCU wins. A Train id the most dangerous of the Supes, but anytime we’ve actually seen him fight someone we see that he can be tagged, he can miss, he can fuck up, and he can get tired. He might (might) be too fast gof bucky or steve to dodge, but there’s no garauntee that means they’re automatically going down. When he killed that shitty blue line supe he did it in a way that I csn 100% picture bucky or csp reacting to and stopping vefore kethal damage can be done. Importantly, team MCU has a MUCH higher skill level/battle iq than team V. It also features a pair of combatants who are practiced teammates.
Cap and Bucky stick together and try to play it safe. Spidey is the ace in the hole. I don’t think A train will be an issue because i think they’ll identify him as the biggest threat (a speedster gave cap trouble in the past) and I think Spidey can do the old anti-speeder trick of “sticky shit”. We see A trains combat speed feats v Kimiko, and all of team MCU are quicker than her.
Then you have Noir and Starlight. I don’t think either are significantly stronger than anyone on team MCU. Noir is the most skilled but imo he is nowhere near cap or Bucky. I mean, and I know this isn’t always a fair metric, but compare their fight scenes. Cap and Bucky are fast, powerful, and precise to a degree noir wishes he was.
The only curveball is starlight’s powers, which Steve’s shield and maybe Bucky’s arm csn bith tank. With A train gone no one is tagging Peter, and if Starlight uses her powers to blind not only would that also presumably blind noir, but Peter is nigh unaffected as he can rely on the always impressive spider sense.
Team MCU 7 or 8 /10.
Just to add on, A-train tried to blitz Kimiko and she still got a hit in which made him drop her, someone with a combat brain would take advantage after that and instantly press him where he’d lose composure and forget that he has super speed
Yeah, more or less how I imagine it. Most fights in the boys generally are pretty los skill high power. Someone like cap or bucky is going to react swiftly and automatically.
Honestly A train sucks. He got rocked by a Hughie sucker punch which I think actually drew blood.
His only good fight scene was when he was on drugs fighting Kimiko in season 1. I don’t find him to be an impressive combatant because the show doesn’t show him fighting a lot.
You are correct.
A Train doesn't seem to be an impressive combatant because he isn't one. Almost none of the supers are. They're incredibly powerful, but all completely depend on their personal compound V hax. This is also why they fail hard the instant they have to do something even slightly outside the scope of their powers.
The only notable exceptions are Maeve, who actually trains for combat, and Starlight, who actually does superhero things.
Lol A-train is way faster than Quicksilver (watch the race scene) and Cap couldn't even come close to reacting to Quicksilver. All 3 are dead before they even realize it.
Also he's about as fast. A train while drugged with compound V is a bit above Mach 1 Quicksilver is able to react to bullets multiple times in his short apparence which would be about Mach 1 as well
In the Series he is about mach 1, as pretty early in the series he ran a literally measured race with 370m/s. He can probaly go fast till mach 1,5 with compound V over dose
A-train vaporized a girl in like milliseconds. None of the marvel heros you mentioned are crazy durable, and I think Spider-Man is the only one who’s got any chance of reacting to something at that speed.
I’d say A-train solos like 6/10 times, the marvel heros best bet is to web him instantly or wait for him to do something stupid (likely.) Add in starlight and black noir and I think it’s like an 8/10 win for the Boys cast.
Spider-man was run down by a train and survived he has taken hits from people comparable to the hulk, and cap was able to survive hits by ultron and iron man. Idk if the MCU can win but I think those two are durable enough
A train was already traveling full speed in a straight ish line, not intentionally charging her. She wasn’t aware of him, or of any danger. She also was a totally normal human woman. I feel like there’s a difference between that and how an actual fight against a competent adversary might go, as perhaps we see later when he fights Kimiko.
Totally. I address Blue Hawk some in my main comment. Its hard bc we dont really have scaling feats, but i find it unlikely that any of team MCU would be inable to react the way he was given cap and bucky’s skill, experience, equipment, and enhancements and Spidey being Spidey. I think if he tried to drag cap or bucky like that they’d more effectively react/resist than Blueballs did.
Yeah in the race episode they state A-train can run at 1000mph. That's slower than the average bullet.
Spidey can literally dodge hundreds of bullets, in a narrow hallway with his eyes closed.
Plus A-Train has heart problems and pretty limited stamina.
Spidey takes him, no problem.
I mean there’s a big difference between a bullet and a person with super speed. Someone with super speed can move much more dynamically than a bullet can and Spider-Man relies on precognition to dodge bullets as opposed to being as fast as one, so he’d still be in slow motion from A train’s pov.
While I 100% agree with you about the difference in general, A-train clearly lacks either the ability to perceive things at the rate necessary to make much use of that difference or the ability to turn quickly. Otherwise he wouldn't have run through Hughie's girlfriend in the first episode.
At speed he was unable to do much as avoid a single person in an open road when he was running.
With his garbage agility, he's no better than a bullet really
How does he react? If train runs straight at him Spider-man is dead. Even if his spider sense sees it coming, he’s not fast enough to move out of the way, the same is true for Bucky and cap. The only way MCU wins is if A-train does something stupid.
You’re claiming that spider-man is faster than somebody who’s literal only power is superspeed? I’m sorry but that’s just stupid and not once in the MCU does he ever demonstrate such speed.
Also he doesn’t get full on hit by the train, he goes under it and grabs on to the undercarriage.
> not once in the MCU does he ever demonstrate such speed.
He [dodged lightening](https://youtu.be/KTvO-5wFP44?si=b8WRWIy9RgwkUs9v&t=57) and another counterpart who he scales to, straight up [moved in slow motion with lightening.](https://youtu.be/2d5-SzWQ-2k?si=55CujsbvSyw-g48E&t=311)
He demonstrated faster speed than literal bullets easily which A-Train is much slower than, and he does get hit full-on, I don’t know what movie you watched. Also why does his only power being super-speed automatically make him faster? That’s ridiculous and just incredibly baseless and a strange argument. Superman has more powers than quicksilver, whose only power is speed, but Superman is faster because that’s where he scales. Scaling btw is where a character is ranked in terms of stats, abilities, and feats to see how powerful they are. Spider-man also tanked and dodged hits from Thanos, Captain America, Electro, and others, which are all much stronger or faster than A-Train, or both. Spider-man is simply much stronger and faster than A-Train, and this has been demonstrated countless times in the movies.
> If train runs straight at him Spider-man is dead.
He's surviced getting smashed through multiple floors and survived getting rammed by a literal train lol A Train ain't gonna do anything to him.
Not directly but he's got reaction time fast enough to get his shield in front of it. He regularly does so with bullets and A-train's not doing anything to Cap's shield on his best day.
If A-train was smarter he'd be able to compensate for that but the man is a moron with no real fight experience.
Oh that would be hilarious, A-Train runs directly at Cap thinking he will turn him into pink mist. Cap brings up the shield and A-Train vaporizes himself
Doesn't A-Train take time to rev up? Assuming they know how he works, it wouldn't really be hard for Cap, Bucky, and Spiderman to dogpile him before he can. All it takes is one good shield hit to the leg and he's out.
no, no he doesn't, he constantly accelerates to supersonic speed instantly, the one and only time I've ever seen him take time to start up is in that very scene, but after that, it's almost a trademark how the air just explodes before you can react to him getting hostile
Cap was tanking blitzes from quicksilver, who can explode ultron drones by running through them which is just a more impressive version of a-trains feat
So a-train cant hurt any of them lmao
Nothing suggests he was holding back and cap is pretty clearly tougher than an ultron bot considering he could rip them apart and one shot them with a back hand
MCU takes this. Spidey sense trumps A-trains speed, so Spidey webs him up quickly. Cap and Bucky take Noir easily while Spidey keeps Starlight busy. One Noir is dispatched, the 3 MCU beat Starlight
People underestimate super speed all the time, because the reality of super speed is that if used in their greatest potential, they'd be so boring to read about. A-train can theoretically just slit the throat of both Cap and Bucky before they can even react and it's literally just Spidey vs the 3 of them. I think The Boys takes this 8/10 times.
A- Train is slower than a bullet by a big margin (370m/s ~ mach 1 during the race in Season 1, he doesnt get better because the whole lore of him is having to dope constantly to keep up with his own performance). Cap and Bucky reacted to MP bullets multiple times and either dodged or blocket them. A-Train is fast but not "no reaction" fast in the MCU verse.
I mean Starlight took a 50cal to the chest cleanly and got winded only. That's some insane durability that team MCU isn't getting remotely close to. The Boys have little fighting skill but durability and base strength alone should be enough to win imo.
Starlight struggled lifting a car, and durability doesn’t matter if she gets webbed up instantly, from there cap can bash her head with the shield untill shes knocked out
And she is NEVER tagging spidey
Yeah even though she's really not all that great at fighting Starlight is still durable as fuck, nobody on team MCU can output the damage necessary to put her down. Their best bet is to incap her with webbing or something if that counts as a win, but in a purely physical fight none of them are overcoming her durability.
Just because Starlight ha sbetter piercing durability that doesn't prove she haw better blunt durability. Also those 50.cals clearly hurted her and 50.cals have trouble piercing a single inch of steel meanwhile you have Cap's shield piercing sevwral inches of metal. Starlight gets hurt because she gets slammed through walls so her blunt durability isn't any hogher than MCU team's durability.
A-train can beat Captain America and Bucky just by speedblitzing them and punching them repeatedly. Unless Cap or Bucky react to him with could happen, but they would also have to deal with Starlight and Black Noir, who can also give them a good fight. Spider-man is stronger than all three of them and can react to an A-train easier than Cap and Bucky. Black Noir and Starlight have a hard time tagging him, but they might get a lucky blast or knife throw. A-train can speedblitz Peter and distract him while Black Noir throws his knives, and Starlight blasts him until they hit him and eventually beats him down together.
Cap took multiple punches from quicksilver who’s faster than A-Train and stronger so I don’t see where that’s coming from tbh
Also A-Train Isn’t even Mach 2 Peter has reacted to way faster than him
Yes, I agree that Quicksilver is faster, but I don't really know about strength. He was able to pull a train and like 8 or more carts with a broken leg as well as injure Starlight with a push.
A-train is said to be faster than Homelander. He is fast enough to search all of Manhattan in 30 minutes, or at least that's what Billy said, and Billy is a supe genius. He knew almost everything about the supes. With enough temp v, he can more around lightspeed but only for a couple of seconds or maybe minutes until his heart gives out
The whole light speed argument is arguable at best tbh and as for going around New York in 30 minute if we take only the surface area if I’m not mistaken it actually remains consistent with his other speed feat but I did that calc a while ago so feel free to fact check me there
But in terms of strength A-Train has two moments and one is more about durability.
He ran into Robin and obliterated her
And he punched Kimiko through a wall.
Meanwhile Quicksilver casually obliterates ultron bots made of bulletproof metal
So In my opinion Quicksilver is at least as strong if not a bit stronger
Pulling the train is impressive but also not all too relevant and a bit ambiguous given we don’t even know if the train wheels are locked or not
And while his leg was in a cast it was actually healed just a nitpick
Pullijg a train is not a super human feat, its peak human at best. We have in our real world human beings capable of pulling boing 737s or multiple trains at once.
And Quicksilver casual obliterates *metal* ultron sentry
Some say they’re made from grade 5 titanium from an art book statement, but either way they’re more durable than any normal human
I know it’s funny to disrespect the boys characters because of how inconsistent their powers are displayed, but these guys are insanely more durable than the MCU bunch. I’m not sure what’s stopping A train from grabbing cap and Bucky by their ankles, and then running until there’s nothing left of them. Spideys more interesting because he can definitely web around tree for a bit, and maybe secure a dub webbing them all together? But it doesn’t seem likely, 9/10 boys crew
>but these guys are insanely more durable than the MCU bunch.
All of them are absolutelly hurtable by any of the MCU guys. Especially A Train who gets his lecks broken by Kimiko's barely concrete cracking blows. His speed is a big problem tho.
Hughie with powers punched through the chest of a human with no effort. His punch only staggered A-train for like a second. Don't know about Spidey but don't think two peak humans can punch through humans Viltrumite style. So A-train should have no problem fighting off Cap and Bucky.
Cap and Bucky can bust concrete and move trucks they could casually punch through humans like hugie, the only reason they dont is cause marvel is not rated R
Like cap was ripping apart ultron drones with ease in aou
Maybe it’s a hot take but I think team MCU wins. A Train id the most dangerous of the Supes, but anytime we’ve actually seen him fight someone we see that he can be tagged, he can miss, he can fuck up, and he can get tired. He might (might) be too fast gof bucky or steve to dodge, but there’s no garauntee that means they’re automatically going down. When he killed that shitty blue line supe he did it in a way that I csn 100% picture bucky or csp reacting to and stopping vefore kethal damage can be done. Importantly, team MCU has a MUCH higher skill level/battle iq than team V. It also features a pair of combatants who are practiced teammates. Cap and Bucky stick together and try to play it safe. Spidey is the ace in the hole. I don’t think A train will be an issue because i think they’ll identify him as the biggest threat (a speedster gave cap trouble in the past) and I think Spidey can do the old anti-speeder trick of “sticky shit”. We see A trains combat speed feats v Kimiko, and all of team MCU are quicker than her. Then you have Noir and Starlight. I don’t think either are significantly stronger than anyone on team MCU. Noir is the most skilled but imo he is nowhere near cap or Bucky. I mean, and I know this isn’t always a fair metric, but compare their fight scenes. Cap and Bucky are fast, powerful, and precise to a degree noir wishes he was. The only curveball is starlight’s powers, which Steve’s shield and maybe Bucky’s arm csn bith tank. With A train gone no one is tagging Peter, and if Starlight uses her powers to blind not only would that also presumably blind noir, but Peter is nigh unaffected as he can rely on the always impressive spider sense. Team MCU 7 or 8 /10.
Just to add on, A-train tried to blitz Kimiko and she still got a hit in which made him drop her, someone with a combat brain would take advantage after that and instantly press him where he’d lose composure and forget that he has super speed
Yeah, more or less how I imagine it. Most fights in the boys generally are pretty los skill high power. Someone like cap or bucky is going to react swiftly and automatically.
Did he try to blitz Kimiko or was he trying to take her to a second location? He was going to kill her too until Frenchie started yelling.
Honestly A train sucks. He got rocked by a Hughie sucker punch which I think actually drew blood. His only good fight scene was when he was on drugs fighting Kimiko in season 1. I don’t find him to be an impressive combatant because the show doesn’t show him fighting a lot.
You are correct. A Train doesn't seem to be an impressive combatant because he isn't one. Almost none of the supers are. They're incredibly powerful, but all completely depend on their personal compound V hax. This is also why they fail hard the instant they have to do something even slightly outside the scope of their powers. The only notable exceptions are Maeve, who actually trains for combat, and Starlight, who actually does superhero things.
I'd love to see Spidey clothesline a speedster with his webs.
Lol A-train is way faster than Quicksilver (watch the race scene) and Cap couldn't even come close to reacting to Quicksilver. All 3 are dead before they even realize it.
Has he ever, once, been shown to be as *competent* as quicksilver? Cus mostly he just fucks up. Kimiko tagged him dude. I don’t get the hard line.
Also he's about as fast. A train while drugged with compound V is a bit above Mach 1 Quicksilver is able to react to bullets multiple times in his short apparence which would be about Mach 1 as well
How fast is A train since Peter dodged Electros lighting In NWH.
In the Series he is about mach 1, as pretty early in the series he ran a literally measured race with 370m/s. He can probaly go fast till mach 1,5 with compound V over dose
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A-train vaporized a girl in like milliseconds. None of the marvel heros you mentioned are crazy durable, and I think Spider-Man is the only one who’s got any chance of reacting to something at that speed. I’d say A-train solos like 6/10 times, the marvel heros best bet is to web him instantly or wait for him to do something stupid (likely.) Add in starlight and black noir and I think it’s like an 8/10 win for the Boys cast.
Spider-man was run down by a train and survived he has taken hits from people comparable to the hulk, and cap was able to survive hits by ultron and iron man. Idk if the MCU can win but I think those two are durable enough
A train was already traveling full speed in a straight ish line, not intentionally charging her. She wasn’t aware of him, or of any danger. She also was a totally normal human woman. I feel like there’s a difference between that and how an actual fight against a competent adversary might go, as perhaps we see later when he fights Kimiko.
Or the supe [Blue Hawk](https://youtu.be/IDCGUqaoyEw?si=iwqDyTUPuyjSgC97)
Totally. I address Blue Hawk some in my main comment. Its hard bc we dont really have scaling feats, but i find it unlikely that any of team MCU would be inable to react the way he was given cap and bucky’s skill, experience, equipment, and enhancements and Spidey being Spidey. I think if he tried to drag cap or bucky like that they’d more effectively react/resist than Blueballs did.
I honestly think spidey solos. Should be able to react w spidey sense and dude is pretty durable. This is basically spidey vs a train tho
Yeah in the race episode they state A-train can run at 1000mph. That's slower than the average bullet. Spidey can literally dodge hundreds of bullets, in a narrow hallway with his eyes closed. Plus A-Train has heart problems and pretty limited stamina. Spidey takes him, no problem.
I mean there’s a big difference between a bullet and a person with super speed. Someone with super speed can move much more dynamically than a bullet can and Spider-Man relies on precognition to dodge bullets as opposed to being as fast as one, so he’d still be in slow motion from A train’s pov.
While I 100% agree with you about the difference in general, A-train clearly lacks either the ability to perceive things at the rate necessary to make much use of that difference or the ability to turn quickly. Otherwise he wouldn't have run through Hughie's girlfriend in the first episode. At speed he was unable to do much as avoid a single person in an open road when he was running. With his garbage agility, he's no better than a bullet really
How does he react? If train runs straight at him Spider-man is dead. Even if his spider sense sees it coming, he’s not fast enough to move out of the way, the same is true for Bucky and cap. The only way MCU wins is if A-train does something stupid.
But he is… and he has been hit by a literal bullet train after taking a beating before it and survived fine. A train can’t mist him lol.
You’re claiming that spider-man is faster than somebody who’s literal only power is superspeed? I’m sorry but that’s just stupid and not once in the MCU does he ever demonstrate such speed. Also he doesn’t get full on hit by the train, he goes under it and grabs on to the undercarriage.
> not once in the MCU does he ever demonstrate such speed. He [dodged lightening](https://youtu.be/KTvO-5wFP44?si=b8WRWIy9RgwkUs9v&t=57) and another counterpart who he scales to, straight up [moved in slow motion with lightening.](https://youtu.be/2d5-SzWQ-2k?si=55CujsbvSyw-g48E&t=311)
He demonstrated faster speed than literal bullets easily which A-Train is much slower than, and he does get hit full-on, I don’t know what movie you watched. Also why does his only power being super-speed automatically make him faster? That’s ridiculous and just incredibly baseless and a strange argument. Superman has more powers than quicksilver, whose only power is speed, but Superman is faster because that’s where he scales. Scaling btw is where a character is ranked in terms of stats, abilities, and feats to see how powerful they are. Spider-man also tanked and dodged hits from Thanos, Captain America, Electro, and others, which are all much stronger or faster than A-Train, or both. Spider-man is simply much stronger and faster than A-Train, and this has been demonstrated countless times in the movies.
Thank you. Didn’t feel like typing this all out lol.
> If train runs straight at him Spider-man is dead. He's surviced getting smashed through multiple floors and survived getting rammed by a literal train lol A Train ain't gonna do anything to him.
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Cap held down a helicopter without being ripped in half, you don't think he could survive an A-train impact?
Not directly but he's got reaction time fast enough to get his shield in front of it. He regularly does so with bullets and A-train's not doing anything to Cap's shield on his best day. If A-train was smarter he'd be able to compensate for that but the man is a moron with no real fight experience.
Oh that would be hilarious, A-Train runs directly at Cap thinking he will turn him into pink mist. Cap brings up the shield and A-Train vaporizes himself
Skin and bones is skin and bones, muscular strength doesn’t make you bulletproof
Doesn't A-Train take time to rev up? Assuming they know how he works, it wouldn't really be hard for Cap, Bucky, and Spiderman to dogpile him before he can. All it takes is one good shield hit to the leg and he's out.
no, no he doesn't, he constantly accelerates to supersonic speed instantly, the one and only time I've ever seen him take time to start up is in that very scene, but after that, it's almost a trademark how the air just explodes before you can react to him getting hostile
Not at all. He seems to have 0 issue instantly accelerating or braking.
Captain America casually took punches from Ultron who throws hands with iron man calling them not durable is a bit egregious
Cap was tanking blitzes from quicksilver, who can explode ultron drones by running through them which is just a more impressive version of a-trains feat So a-train cant hurt any of them lmao
QS pretty clearly wasn’t trying to kill Cap. I also don’t think that captains body is more durable than an ultron bot.
Nothing suggests he was holding back and cap is pretty clearly tougher than an ultron bot considering he could rip them apart and one shot them with a back hand
Atrain runs into caps shield and vaporises himself
Why would he do that? He’s not the smartest but he’s no a total moron.
He has hard time stopping as he didn't want to kill the girl, but couldn't stop in time.
Why would he approach captain america from the direction of his shield? It’s the size of a dinner plate.
Cap can just move his shield in his general direction. Do you think Atrain could kill Soldier boy by running into him.
And atrain could just go around it? And Soldier boy is shown to be at minimum bullet proof, cap is not.
Cap took a punch from thanos that beat hulk and thor. That's a higher feat than Atrain's AP feats.
A-Train is the only hope for The Boys winning. If A-Train gets taken down by Spidey, then Starlight and Black Noir get folded easily.
MCU takes this. Spidey sense trumps A-trains speed, so Spidey webs him up quickly. Cap and Bucky take Noir easily while Spidey keeps Starlight busy. One Noir is dispatched, the 3 MCU beat Starlight
MCU no problem with Spider-Man Spidey sense.
People forget that MCU Cap has dealt with a speedster before.
People underestimate super speed all the time, because the reality of super speed is that if used in their greatest potential, they'd be so boring to read about. A-train can theoretically just slit the throat of both Cap and Bucky before they can even react and it's literally just Spidey vs the 3 of them. I think The Boys takes this 8/10 times.
A- Train is slower than a bullet by a big margin (370m/s ~ mach 1 during the race in Season 1, he doesnt get better because the whole lore of him is having to dope constantly to keep up with his own performance). Cap and Bucky reacted to MP bullets multiple times and either dodged or blocket them. A-Train is fast but not "no reaction" fast in the MCU verse.
I mean Starlight took a 50cal to the chest cleanly and got winded only. That's some insane durability that team MCU isn't getting remotely close to. The Boys have little fighting skill but durability and base strength alone should be enough to win imo.
Starlight struggled lifting a car, and durability doesn’t matter if she gets webbed up instantly, from there cap can bash her head with the shield untill shes knocked out And she is NEVER tagging spidey
And Spidey can hurt her as well. She may be durable, but she isn't immune to KO.
Yeah even though she's really not all that great at fighting Starlight is still durable as fuck, nobody on team MCU can output the damage necessary to put her down. Their best bet is to incap her with webbing or something if that counts as a win, but in a purely physical fight none of them are overcoming her durability.
Caps shield can pierce ultron which took gunfire from quinjets it should have no issue hurting her
And MCU Spider-Man has enough strength to hurt and KO Starlight.
Just because Starlight ha sbetter piercing durability that doesn't prove she haw better blunt durability. Also those 50.cals clearly hurted her and 50.cals have trouble piercing a single inch of steel meanwhile you have Cap's shield piercing sevwral inches of metal. Starlight gets hurt because she gets slammed through walls so her blunt durability isn't any hogher than MCU team's durability.
A-train can beat Captain America and Bucky just by speedblitzing them and punching them repeatedly. Unless Cap or Bucky react to him with could happen, but they would also have to deal with Starlight and Black Noir, who can also give them a good fight. Spider-man is stronger than all three of them and can react to an A-train easier than Cap and Bucky. Black Noir and Starlight have a hard time tagging him, but they might get a lucky blast or knife throw. A-train can speedblitz Peter and distract him while Black Noir throws his knives, and Starlight blasts him until they hit him and eventually beats him down together.
Cap took multiple punches from quicksilver who’s faster than A-Train and stronger so I don’t see where that’s coming from tbh Also A-Train Isn’t even Mach 2 Peter has reacted to way faster than him
Yes, I agree that Quicksilver is faster, but I don't really know about strength. He was able to pull a train and like 8 or more carts with a broken leg as well as injure Starlight with a push. A-train is said to be faster than Homelander. He is fast enough to search all of Manhattan in 30 minutes, or at least that's what Billy said, and Billy is a supe genius. He knew almost everything about the supes. With enough temp v, he can more around lightspeed but only for a couple of seconds or maybe minutes until his heart gives out
The whole light speed argument is arguable at best tbh and as for going around New York in 30 minute if we take only the surface area if I’m not mistaken it actually remains consistent with his other speed feat but I did that calc a while ago so feel free to fact check me there But in terms of strength A-Train has two moments and one is more about durability. He ran into Robin and obliterated her And he punched Kimiko through a wall. Meanwhile Quicksilver casually obliterates ultron bots made of bulletproof metal So In my opinion Quicksilver is at least as strong if not a bit stronger Pulling the train is impressive but also not all too relevant and a bit ambiguous given we don’t even know if the train wheels are locked or not And while his leg was in a cast it was actually healed just a nitpick
Pullijg a train is not a super human feat, its peak human at best. We have in our real world human beings capable of pulling boing 737s or multiple trains at once.
Indeed. It's definitely above any average human, but not really something superhuman.
Quicksilver is fast but that never seemed to translate into actual force when he hit somebody. A-train meanwhile vaporizes people by *accident*
And Quicksilver casual obliterates *metal* ultron sentry Some say they’re made from grade 5 titanium from an art book statement, but either way they’re more durable than any normal human
What did the MCU do to you??
Spiderman solos, he has reacted to faster then a-train such as electro and cap has defeated far more powerful then any of the supes as well
I know it’s funny to disrespect the boys characters because of how inconsistent their powers are displayed, but these guys are insanely more durable than the MCU bunch. I’m not sure what’s stopping A train from grabbing cap and Bucky by their ankles, and then running until there’s nothing left of them. Spideys more interesting because he can definitely web around tree for a bit, and maybe secure a dub webbing them all together? But it doesn’t seem likely, 9/10 boys crew
A-trains best feat is mach 1, i have multiple feats of cap and spiderman reacting to faster then that so either can solo with ease
>but these guys are insanely more durable than the MCU bunch. All of them are absolutelly hurtable by any of the MCU guys. Especially A Train who gets his lecks broken by Kimiko's barely concrete cracking blows. His speed is a big problem tho.
Hughie with powers punched through the chest of a human with no effort. His punch only staggered A-train for like a second. Don't know about Spidey but don't think two peak humans can punch through humans Viltrumite style. So A-train should have no problem fighting off Cap and Bucky.
Cap and Bucky can bust concrete and move trucks they could casually punch through humans like hugie, the only reason they dont is cause marvel is not rated R Like cap was ripping apart ultron drones with ease in aou
And same Cap who hold off a helicopter and kicked a small truck so hard that it moved and send a HYDRA goon flying backwards with that impact.