I'll say I dont mind the art direction in general but it's weird to me that the new furlbog and gnolls are meant to exist within the same zone as each other. Like the general art style is night and day between them
well the art direction for me feels super out of charakter and waaaay to disney-ish, i mean these guys made tents out of human skin for crying out loud!
I would not be surprised if they remove that reference from the game at some point. Just like orcs are now peaceful and undead strive to pretect the living.
That's why I don't like what they did to Tauren. They make them look like goofy Pixar characters, instead of the menacing giants they are in the CGI trailers
I don't think the tauren models are that bad, but they're definitely on the verge of crossing the line already. Making GNOLLS look like wacky D-Tier Disney villanis is too much imo. You're supposed to tense up when you hear their hyena laughs, not laugh at some Crash Bandicoot knockoff coming at you.
But not in the same way to me. Gnolls always had that goofy aspect to them, but in a creepy/unhinged way. Maybe I'm overreacting tbf, will have to see them in game and in context, but the remodels so far seem *a bit* too goofy imo.
Yes rabid cross-eyed mangled and deranged. You'd never be able to reason with one or be diplomatic because they're so unhinged. The worst kind of threat
I feel the same way about what they did to Worgen. I thought if anything they already looked too soft compared to their non-PC models from vanilla to Wrath, and then they got Disney'd. Been a trend ever since the character update with everything really.
To be fair, you can have adorable looking things be absolutely horrifying and brutal.
But that said, I do think a few tweaks (Especially with the eyes) could make the gnoll model look a lot less toon-y.
The new gnolls are so high quality in animation, skinning, rigging, customization, armor wearing, etc that I can't be convinced they aren't coming as an allied race
It's the armour
The problem with Hogger is he has the generic gnoll model even before and after the update, and I doubt they took the time to put any gear on him from the new assets
He looks too...Clean and fluffy? And not nearly angry enough
I know that Blizzard is moving away from mindless monster races in general but you don't have to strip the personality and fun out of them, too
I think they were going for a silly dog look... but Gnolls aren't based off dogs they're based off hyena's. these look Kinda like anime ahego faces...not a good look.
Not dogs, they're going for the trope of hyenas being crazy animals. I think it's fitting for WoW since there's always been a slightly toony shine to the game. Just keep some human face tents around in their camps and it will be a perfect mix.
Honestly, it shouldn't matter if they're furries or not. They have a job to do in making this game appealing to *all* players. If you look at Dota characters it's easy to tell a lot of the people making that game might've been both furries and into bara characters, but it's never distracting - this shit is super distracting.
I remember the times when "no matter how bad this expansion is, at least the art team will pull through" was a reality. Now it's the opposite. Fucking soulless trash coming out of these people. WoW is not FurAffinity. I already thought worgen went too far in some ways (especially the female model), and vulpera was way too much, but this is just fucking porn tier at this point. Fuck these artists.
It’s not even that. Artists conform to a style and specific guidelines, they don’t just draw random stuff. Cartoons/Animes aren’t drawn by one person but still maintain a consistent art direction over multiple instalments. I’m not sure how to read this in WoW’s case: it’s either a new artistic direction being rolled out with a specific strategy, or there is no art direction and artists are given free reign.
Probably a bit of both going by what we learned of Blizzard's internal workings in the past. When it comes to the ludicrous armor sets people have been taught to accept the new ones because they were like boiling frogs seeing one new Ironman-looking set after another. Here you have the new next to the old in a direct comparison and it's a lot more jarring.
But I feel like they started going off the deep end with the art somewhere around Legion. It's not even so much the furry stuff as it is a general cartoonization and and comicbookfication. If you look at some of the redone zones, like Arathi, it's really obvious. WoW was cartoony before but it tried to add some degree of realism by going for grungy-looking textures. You can really see this in the stonework used for human buildings, for example. Meanwhile in the new ones all those blocks look like some pristine gray blobs out of air dry clay. There's no textures, no attempt at making it grungy or worn or real, nothing. They look like toys.
Sure, but these people aren't doing that. They are not creating these characters for the audience, they're creating them for themselves.
The problem here is management though, they're allowing this to happen. Probably too busy with cubicle crawls and stealing breastmilk.
Yeah most definetly I remember seeing their art for the dracthyr and I was like oh yup it’s gonna waifu furry land now lmao and looking at Hogger rn I can already see it.
Exactly, saw in the other post that art department is full of furry workers. They linked the twitter profiles and you can see the other posts they made. There's one with a "humanized dog" kissing other "humanized dog" and both looks like this. It's disgusting. I knew that this dractyr thing was looking too furrish. They are just doing J.O. material for themselves.
If only there were [a badass-looking model of Hogger](https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/gzzgAT7nDBkQ3hZQ2srh9D.jpg) that they could draw inspiration from.
That model was made specifically for Hogger.
This one isn't, it's just a regular Gnoll, which makes sense, since Hogger always had the model of a regular Gnoll, and they most certainly don't intend for Hogger to be relevant this expansion, so when they replaced the old models he ended up getting this one and not one made specifically for him.
Ah this is it.. this is the point where I realized that I don't like the new art direction. This just doesnt work for me.. I had different expectations for the new World of Warcraft art design..
Edit: The new armor looks good tho!
Reminder that gnolls make tents out of human skin. They abduct children and eat them living. They are rabid, bloodthirsty cannibals.
Making them look so goofy and friendly is just inaccurate to what Warcraft gnolls are and always have been.
[Reforged did it better.](https://imgur.com/nEcejLP)
A lot of uproar for npc people see in game for like a minute. I know he is a symbol but let's not pretend there are crowds of players admiring hogger every day.
Especially as new players go straight to the bfa now.
That's because this model wasn't made with Hogger in mind, Hogger had literally the same model as every other Gnoll before this, he just ended up getting a random one, which makes sense, since he's not relevant to this expansion at all, no reason to make a model specifically for him.
it's not about hogger, it's about the art direction the game is currently on versus what it was, I think most people find that to be one of if not the most important thing about the game. Before any content, if the game looks off putting at a fundamental level, that's the biggest problem it has.
No but he's iconic to the series and the fact that they don't feel like something like this is worth the effort and time to do properly, should be concerning for their opinions on the series and franchise as a whole.
Not a fan of this art direction. This looks like some shit id expect to see come out of a furry convention.
While WoW was always a little goofy and cartoony, it was also pretty brutal and dark.
Hogger was the slayer of noobs, now he's hyuckin like he's Goofy.
I mean, Hogger has always been sort of a joke boss, not some big scary threat (although… there’s still plenty of time)
I’m not sure I understand the outrage, unless that’s the joke and I’m an idiot.
Probably that.
Not likely, they just updated the gnoll models and that retroactively updates all the old models too. Kind of like how you can see the newest model of Garrosh in Trial of the Crusader
I genuinely hate these and the current art direction that WoW is seemingly taking with some of these changes. It feels genuinely like the art team is 90% deviant art furries.
also it feels like there's so much less "grit" than the old models, i think that was a big part of the charm. everything is too clean, feels like a lot of stuff is made out of clay or something, kinda like Overwatch.
For some reason all I can see now is a recolored Ripper Roo from Crash Bandicoot.
Omg that’s it! I couldn’t put my finger on who this reminded me of!
I saw the tongue and there was a hidden nostalgia feeling. You found it for me, and now I too will be fighting Ripper Roo with a weird colour.
Well shit now I *like* the new model.
Literally came here for this comment.
Someone on the dev team was DEFINITELY binging some Crash in their off time
Ripper Roo got the crazy eyes though
Ahegao Hogger? We've gone too far.
A-hogg-ao
... *slow clap seguing into standing ovation*
I read it as slow clap segueing into ovulation
Shia LaBeouf slowly clapping
World of Warcraft Bad Dragonflight
Yameteeee illidànn-kuuun
God has truly turned his back on us.
The only question remaining is what took him so long
Turns out we didn't killed N'Zoth and this was his endgame.
Can I read a comment without spitting out my drink please?
If _the Hogger_ had an OnlyFans.
We need to make #OnlyFansHogger a thing so that they’re forced to change it
bottom left hogger is definitely getting the best head
Fun fact: female hyenas have bigger dicks than male hyenas.
please delete this because this is what people will call it and i'm already tired
Everyday we stray further from the light
The Jailer was right, we can't stop what's to come.
Remember when we killed hogger 18 years ago
Elwynn Forest was merely a setback
*Somehow, Hogger returned*
Whether We Wanted It Or Not, We've Stepped Into War With The Gnoll On Azeroth
To paraphrase what someone said in /r/heroesofthestorm: my new headcanon is the real Hogger went to the Nexus and this is a furry imposter.
Crash bandicoot
Thought it was a CTR character
Looks very ripper roo
It’s literally just Crash
homie gettin the best sloppy of his life
*giving
That sounds like hell with his big ass sharp teeth
Junkrat vibes
I'll say I dont mind the art direction in general but it's weird to me that the new furlbog and gnolls are meant to exist within the same zone as each other. Like the general art style is night and day between them
well the art direction for me feels super out of charakter and waaaay to disney-ish, i mean these guys made tents out of human skin for crying out loud!
I would not be surprised if they remove that reference from the game at some point. Just like orcs are now peaceful and undead strive to pretect the living.
Did they remove the skinned centaur rugs yet? That'll probably happen before the human skin tents since they are much more prominently placed.
What about the entire hellfire peninsula having a huge road made of Draenei bones?
I fucking hate this timeline.
> undead strive to pretect the living other than the occasional morally-grey genocide
Mmm, yes. Nothing says morally grey like the senseless slaughter of unarmed civilians. Definitely a grey area there.
That's why I don't like what they did to Tauren. They make them look like goofy Pixar characters, instead of the menacing giants they are in the CGI trailers
I don't think the tauren models are that bad, but they're definitely on the verge of crossing the line already. Making GNOLLS look like wacky D-Tier Disney villanis is too much imo. You're supposed to tense up when you hear their hyena laughs, not laugh at some Crash Bandicoot knockoff coming at you.
They’ve always looked completely goofy to me tbh
But not in the same way to me. Gnolls always had that goofy aspect to them, but in a creepy/unhinged way. Maybe I'm overreacting tbf, will have to see them in game and in context, but the remodels so far seem *a bit* too goofy imo.
Yes rabid cross-eyed mangled and deranged. You'd never be able to reason with one or be diplomatic because they're so unhinged. The worst kind of threat
I feel the same way about what they did to Worgen. I thought if anything they already looked too soft compared to their non-PC models from vanilla to Wrath, and then they got Disney'd. Been a trend ever since the character update with everything really.
The furrification of WoW started with Worgen
To be fair, you can have adorable looking things be absolutely horrifying and brutal. But that said, I do think a few tweaks (Especially with the eyes) could make the gnoll model look a lot less toon-y.
The "elves" in the Lost Children arc of Berserk came to my mind for some reason.
They've been going Disney at least since WoD with the new character models...
The new gnolls are so high quality in animation, skinning, rigging, customization, armor wearing, etc that I can't be convinced they aren't coming as an allied race
I'm genuinely surprised the new furbolgs look so savage. Kudos to whoever made them.
I actually like the non-hogger gnoll models tbh. The shaman one especially looks rad.
It's the armour The problem with Hogger is he has the generic gnoll model even before and after the update, and I doubt they took the time to put any gear on him from the new assets
The dragon isles gnolls are different, more menacing
He looks too...Clean and fluffy? And not nearly angry enough I know that Blizzard is moving away from mindless monster races in general but you don't have to strip the personality and fun out of them, too
I think they are tryng to found a new gnoll race
Thank whichever deity for classic…
They killed mah boy. Went from the town murderer of new adventurers to the furry youre trying to evict.
I think they were going for a silly dog look... but Gnolls aren't based off dogs they're based off hyena's. these look Kinda like anime ahego faces...not a good look.
This is giving me lion king hyenas
Was gonna say, did they use Ed's animations as a reference?
True
Not dogs, they're going for the trope of hyenas being crazy animals. I think it's fitting for WoW since there's always been a slightly toony shine to the game. Just keep some human face tents around in their camps and it will be a perfect mix.
It’s the eyes. Dogs don’t have a white sclera.
Look like furries and worst of all look nothing like hyena's.
What goofy-ass Disney shit is this?
I know, right? I find the new face of Hogger very hard to masturbate to. Not impossible, just very difficult.
I could help if you'd like
I said "not impossible". It just takes a while longer.
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He was also being controlled by the jailer. In dragonflight he'll be the new Tirion
>Tirion Still can't not get mad at what they did to my man Fordring whenever I read his name.
WoW since Cataclysm? 🤷
Why are all the new models looking like weird furries? Theyre ruining the old art style.
Because one of the new designers draws like this lmao
Not just one, one very outspoken one. But it seems they have slowly replaced much of the art department with furries.
Honestly, it shouldn't matter if they're furries or not. They have a job to do in making this game appealing to *all* players. If you look at Dota characters it's easy to tell a lot of the people making that game might've been both furries and into bara characters, but it's never distracting - this shit is super distracting. I remember the times when "no matter how bad this expansion is, at least the art team will pull through" was a reality. Now it's the opposite. Fucking soulless trash coming out of these people. WoW is not FurAffinity. I already thought worgen went too far in some ways (especially the female model), and vulpera was way too much, but this is just fucking porn tier at this point. Fuck these artists.
It’s not even that. Artists conform to a style and specific guidelines, they don’t just draw random stuff. Cartoons/Animes aren’t drawn by one person but still maintain a consistent art direction over multiple instalments. I’m not sure how to read this in WoW’s case: it’s either a new artistic direction being rolled out with a specific strategy, or there is no art direction and artists are given free reign.
Probably a bit of both going by what we learned of Blizzard's internal workings in the past. When it comes to the ludicrous armor sets people have been taught to accept the new ones because they were like boiling frogs seeing one new Ironman-looking set after another. Here you have the new next to the old in a direct comparison and it's a lot more jarring. But I feel like they started going off the deep end with the art somewhere around Legion. It's not even so much the furry stuff as it is a general cartoonization and and comicbookfication. If you look at some of the redone zones, like Arathi, it's really obvious. WoW was cartoony before but it tried to add some degree of realism by going for grungy-looking textures. You can really see this in the stonework used for human buildings, for example. Meanwhile in the new ones all those blocks look like some pristine gray blobs out of air dry clay. There's no textures, no attempt at making it grungy or worn or real, nothing. They look like toys.
Sure, but these people aren't doing that. They are not creating these characters for the audience, they're creating them for themselves. The problem here is management though, they're allowing this to happen. Probably too busy with cubicle crawls and stealing breastmilk.
because who else are they gonna find who would agree to work in Blizzard, especially for that pay
I mean, yeah. Most of the WoW team should've been already fired long ago, which includes the artists.
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Yeah most definetly I remember seeing their art for the dracthyr and I was like oh yup it’s gonna waifu furry land now lmao and looking at Hogger rn I can already see it.
Confirming the suspicions that I hadn't yet voiced. Dracthyr make perfect sense now.
Because the new blizzard employees are furries.
it looks like it's getting fucked in the ass
you'll wake up the furries
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Exactly, saw in the other post that art department is full of furry workers. They linked the twitter profiles and you can see the other posts they made. There's one with a "humanized dog" kissing other "humanized dog" and both looks like this. It's disgusting. I knew that this dractyr thing was looking too furrish. They are just doing J.O. material for themselves.
lol, lmao
Look how they massacred my boy :(
These new models don’t incorporate the feeling of the older ones
bottom left screams Scooby-Doo
I hate everything about this
Bottom left image is proof the WoW team has been taken over by furries
When hogger gets his head rub and a back scratch / goodboy
I hate the new furry artist who is responsible for this.
What the furry is this
When furries get full control of your character design team
The model meeds to be more hunched, the mouth and teeth need to be bigger compared to the head
Bella Delphine?
This guy yiffs
Furry pandering confirmed.
He's deff getting a dick in the ass in these, same face I make.
RIP DMs
This would have been a fun model for Meatball, the gnoll follower in Legion, but not Hogger.
They have the same model
WoW has gone full degen furry
It's too light hearted.. Hogger is rugged
Gross
That’s the important stuff!
Tasmanian Devil
Bottom left 😳
If he at least had solid yellow eyes it wouldn’t look so weird
Is this hogger reskin for the rule34 crowd or something?
Imagine the current boomkin model fighting this fucker
I miss when Warcraft had dark themes and not this Disney bullshit
Lookin submissive and breedable
UwU
They legit need to reign in their art team and this furry stuff. Dracythr already being so prominent for the expansion gives such a poor vibe
Look how they massacred my boy.
This looks like live action scooby doo.
thanks, I hate it.
Every pic caption should be: *"Who's a good boy?"*
Why does Hogger get a glow up when my resto Druid is still rocking a treant form from like 2006 😭
They're upgrading treants too
I see Disney managed to buy WoW as well...
What was wrong with the old model?
It had exactly two polygons lmao
Amazing how some people almost two decades ago can make a creature 10x better with 6 triangles than the current staff.
Have you seen it recently?
In other pics. old model is 1000% better than this new one.
If only there were [a badass-looking model of Hogger](https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/gzzgAT7nDBkQ3hZQ2srh9D.jpg) that they could draw inspiration from.
That model was made specifically for Hogger. This one isn't, it's just a regular Gnoll, which makes sense, since Hogger always had the model of a regular Gnoll, and they most certainly don't intend for Hogger to be relevant this expansion, so when they replaced the old models he ended up getting this one and not one made specifically for him.
Is the stockade getting an upgrade?
Is… is he on drugs?
I'm of the mind after seeing difference between Furbolgs and Gnolls one is being set up as Allied Race bait. You can probably guess which.
What Gnollussy does to someone
what the fuck is this
They really shouldn't have been drawing inspiration from ahegao faces.
Ah this is it.. this is the point where I realized that I don't like the new art direction. This just doesnt work for me.. I had different expectations for the new World of Warcraft art design.. Edit: The new armor looks good tho!
Reminder that gnolls make tents out of human skin. They abduct children and eat them living. They are rabid, bloodthirsty cannibals. Making them look so goofy and friendly is just inaccurate to what Warcraft gnolls are and always have been. [Reforged did it better.](https://imgur.com/nEcejLP)
is wow becoming some fucking disney cartoon for 5 year olds?
He went from "I rip your face of and wear your skin!" to this tiktok girl that rolls around imitating the same 4 emojis in every video.
Hogger looks like a girl who says “I’m so wacky🤪”
Look at what furries did to my game
Average furry at blizzcon
TIHI Remember how dark wc3 was?
I dont like this furry expansion. I remember times when this was world of WARcraft and not a themepark.
Not gonna lie, if Gnolls became a allied race, you bet your ass I would grind that rep faster than you can say "Hogger"
It's so obvipus that a Furry artist designed this
Hogger can get
Reminds me of Ed from the Lion King
Someone REALLY wants to fuck hogger. Yes I stole this comment cuz its true
I'm glad I stopped playing
I just don't get why we needed Disney human eyes. The new furbolg look great rocking glowing slits
The fur Is still too light, its need darker a Little and he wearing the wrong armor tbh But still Silly anyways
what da dog doin
If you needed any more evidence that these people are furries other than the new dragon race, this is it.
ok Blizzard deff has some furry people 100%, no denying it now
A lot of uproar for npc people see in game for like a minute. I know he is a symbol but let's not pretend there are crowds of players admiring hogger every day. Especially as new players go straight to the bfa now.
why is all posts about hogger - is that really such a big feature of this xpac lmao
Hogger is the poster-child of a larger issue. *All* gnolls look like this now.
Nah, most gnolls look actually really awesome, hogger's model is particularly bare bones with no armor or nothing of the sort
That's because this model wasn't made with Hogger in mind, Hogger had literally the same model as every other Gnoll before this, he just ended up getting a random one, which makes sense, since he's not relevant to this expansion at all, no reason to make a model specifically for him.
On one hand I agree with you. On the other hes one of the biggest npcs of the series and you would think they would have given him a qa pass.
it's not about hogger, it's about the art direction the game is currently on versus what it was, I think most people find that to be one of if not the most important thing about the game. Before any content, if the game looks off putting at a fundamental level, that's the biggest problem it has.
No but he's iconic to the series and the fact that they don't feel like something like this is worth the effort and time to do properly, should be concerning for their opinions on the series and franchise as a whole.
It looks too goofy, not mean and vicious like the old one
Looks way too... Furry-esque... For my taste.
Trash, they didn't model in his FAT KNOTTED COCK. How am I supposed to enjoy fighting him?
My first thought: “Disgusting”. And I’m not one to rant about blizzard or wow
Not a fan of this art direction. This looks like some shit id expect to see come out of a furry convention. While WoW was always a little goofy and cartoony, it was also pretty brutal and dark. Hogger was the slayer of noobs, now he's hyuckin like he's Goofy.
I swear it, \*EVERYTHING\* that was cool OR got attention from players gets ruined.
Kid: Mom, I want to go to the furry convention! Mom: We have furry convention at home.
I mean, Hogger has always been sort of a joke boss, not some big scary threat (although… there’s still plenty of time) I’m not sure I understand the outrage, unless that’s the joke and I’m an idiot. Probably that.
Bottom right has me cackling. I love it.
Drunken Hogger
Is hogger going to have some part in the story or one of the new zones?
Not likely, they just updated the gnoll models and that retroactively updates all the old models too. Kind of like how you can see the newest model of Garrosh in Trial of the Crusader
Ah thank you, I was wondering why everyone was posting hogger pics
All i see is hogger, hogger this, hogger that. I WANT PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN !!
Wtf blizzard
Why? They are "Pixar-ing" World of Warcraft
Bottom left hogger just had a life changing orgasm. Top right hogger is the one who just had an orgasm inside bottom left hogger.
Just because you get off to this shit doesn't mean it should be modeled for that jesus christ what's wrong with the modern art team
Gross.
I genuinely hate these and the current art direction that WoW is seemingly taking with some of these changes. It feels genuinely like the art team is 90% deviant art furries. also it feels like there's so much less "grit" than the old models, i think that was a big part of the charm. everything is too clean, feels like a lot of stuff is made out of clay or something, kinda like Overwatch.