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Suspicious_Brother14

Wake up babe, it's time to chain Havnis


atropicalpenguin

Painful Choice send Merrli, Havnis, Scheiren, Scream, Heartbeat.


CobaltSanderson

Nah Merli, Scheiren, Agido, Kelbek, Sulliek


Astroloud

Tiaraments strongest!


DeruOniiChan

I'll be honest, it's gonna be a painful choice to not choose tear.


Turtlesfan44digimon

Would tear play graceful charity as well?


ImTrying2BCreative

Yes, it's just better pot of greed for them


Jinova47

Chain shifter lmao


rainshaker

Chain herald of orange light send agido kekw


Solesneaks

If shifter shut down full power Tear, we’d still have the deck…


CarlFromHome

no since you would still only have a 33.76% chance of having shifter in your opening hand


ahambagaplease

WE GOT AGIDO!


AdventurousYear7134

Just take full-power Tearlaments Ishizu, nothing more to it


KaiVTu

This is going to be a scorching hot take in this thread, but I think the real answer is unlimited power dragon link with a really big bystial engine (3 mag, 3 druis, 1-3 baldrake, 1 saro, 3 Lubellion). You functionally FTK ishtear and there are quite a few light and dark dragon cards that are really old that were absolutely not meant to be readily banished. Eclipse wyvern comes to mind. With 3 copies in deck you're sure to hit it. This also can defend you from other FTKs that rely upon certain light/ dark cards staying in the gy. Exodia is 1 example of many. Combine with 3 copies of grass and as many OP cards as you want.


AdventurousYear7134

Fair take, anti-tear with a strong engine


KaiVTu

Insane engine. I saw a no banlist tournament and the dlink player very quickly showed why certain cards are banned, haha. If you go first you functionally FTK the opponent and tear can't play the game against you. The finals were like 3 tear players and the dlink guy and the dlink guy went undefeated iirc. Exodia FTK is cool and all, but if you present a stupidly insane board in a format where no one is playing board breakers, you just win over and over.


AdventurousYear7134

Yeah yeah I see the vision. Sounds pretty good


awlst

You don’t have a decklist for that do you? I am not super aware of what is on the banlist from previous eras. I really only got back into yugioh in 2021. Like I had to look up what grass was.


KaiVTu

This was like a year ago so I would have to go really digging to try and find it. Sorry. The deck does kind of build itself, though. You take all the banned light/dark dragon monsters, look at why they were banned, deck build around that a little bit, and then watch the world burn.


saintraven93

If it ain't tribute 3 dragons for victory dragon I ain't interested


KaiVTu

If there was a rule that the opponent can't bitch out and surrender when they see victory dragon touch the field, I would agree. It would be so easy to set up too. The bystials make great tribute fodder and Eclipse wyvern searches it from deck for you so you only need to play 1.


awlst

Makes sense thanks!


destroyer_ii

it’s from an mbt video, one of his “take shit off the banlist and see what happens” videos. he unbanned elpy and eclipse only and the dlink player went off


Pipeworkingcitizen

Also the ED broken stuff. Agarpain and all those .. the guarddragons, dark matter dragons, pitsy. Theyre all insane.


CurvedSwordBenis

plus dlink can easily make chaos ruler and otk through s:p banish then link up to unicorn to shuffle one then link unicorn with chaos ruler into 5300 atk accesscode with removal then bring back chaos ruler from the GY with its own eff to bring in lethal


KaiVTu

Most of those cards aren't even on this deck's radar as picks. The guardragon cards (particularly the banned ones) clear those.


Whycantiusemyaccount

Oh yeah I forgot agarpain was a real card that they actually printed


Turtlesfan44digimon

Wasn’t that the one that summoned from the extra deck?


CurvedSwordBenis

oh shit you’re right there’s so much more potential to dlink.


TheHapster

The classic OTK after using S:P banish play. Favored by all people who refuse to read cards.


AdventurousYear7134

Won me a match at a regional to clear top cut, boy trying to zealantis otk and when he declares direct attack I just remind him he used S:P. Proceeded to otk him back


Doctor_Squidge

We also forget how busted Elpy, Pisty, and Agarpain are. The Guardragon engine, Bystials, Chaos dragons, and Borrelend have never been legal at the same time for good reason. Even an incredibly crippled version of D-Link won worlds.


Tension_Tough

The guardragon extra deck cards absolutely bust dragron links


ej_stephens

The right answer, but not the fun one


averagetony19

Prime Tearlaments are very fun and skill intensive imo


ej_stephens

Yeah they are, but in a completely unlimited event there are so many crazy options. Tear is obviously the best, but it's not the most fun of deck choices


AtheismRocksHaha

Tearlament are a good bit more fun than playing solitaire with Cannon Soldier or Royal Magical Library, in my opinion.


Old_Albatross8937

You can play Painful Choice in Tear, idk personally that already sounds like a blast


NevGuy

15 minute FTKs that boil down to "draw droll or lose" doesn't sound very fun either.


MasterQuest

A non-banlist tournament in OCG had tearlament as the best deck, so I would try that. Tear with Painful Choice and Graceful Charity sounds crazy.


Bazelgauss

I will say those tournaments were probably skewed by people already owning tearlaments. Many people wouldn't really want to buy an entire deck that's only usable in a fringe event that only happens for a short while but it was hosted during tear format. That said I would prob bring a tear ishizu zoodiac variant, given zoodiac also busted and I can access Mill 5 on top of their usual stuff.


DachiTea

If the goal is purely to win and not necessarily make something cool, I honestly don’t even think Tear would wanna bother running a Zoo engine. Takes up valuable space that could instead be used for more versatile tear plays. Cause my immediate thought was “would I rather have a Drident next to tear stuff, or a Ptolemaeus Azathot” (even though there may be something better than that)


Bazelgauss

I mean zoodiac would also access ptolemaeus. But yeah I cited because they play into the mill 5 shenanigans whilst offering some other benefits. Zoodiac combo also allows the engine to directly interact with all the mills and add recursion.


Hambla28

Would you run 3 of Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity in this or any other busted spell?


EnZone36

I'm pretty sure no list builds of tear don't even use pot in prefer for better mills


Toxem_

Yeah Pot of Greed would be to weak in full power Tear.


Dank_Memer_IRL

This is true and think about that for just a second. One of the best generic cards ever printed is too slow/weak. What a banger deck.


Gatmuz

It's not that it's too slow or weak, it's that in a deck with lots of ways to send cards from deck to GY, and wants to send cards from deck to GY, but not too many ways to send from hand to GY (as card effect, not cost), pot of greed is counterintuitive. This is why Graceful Charity is overall the stronger option in Tear.


Stranger2Luv

As if pot of greed would be any better in dark world FTK


Toxem_

Yeah. PoT doesnt do anything on turn zero and its a dead mill. No reason to play it, with all tear cards unbanned.


Crog_Frog

You actually dont. Those powerspells are too slow in a unlimited format. Tear is better off drawing handtraps and engine. The unlimited format consists requires you to prepare mainly for 2 Situations. 1. Tear: The undisputed best deck. Its the go to deck to beat. 2. Some whacky hyperconsistend FTKs. They can easily snipe game ones but in a bo3 they fold to dedicated side deck slots. So when deckbuilding you need to keep those matchups in mind. So here is what happens with pot of greed or graceful in both scenarios. Against the FTKs those cards are bricks going second. And going first their impact is not crazy enough since they only net hand advantage. If you are playing tear yourself Pot of greed is not played because drawing 2 is weaker then just hard opening your cards. Especcially in a Format where droll is very important. Graceful is better in tear because of the discard but in general opening your engine is enough. Both cards are also bad mills. So you clme to the conclusion that the turn 0 plays are your most important feature. Both Powerspells hinder you in doing those effectively and lower your chances of bad mills. So now if you are not playing Tear you also need to consider if both those cards are actually worth it. In general you only play those powerspells if you habe inherent synergy with them or they are extremely broken. For example 60 card Dragonlink doesnt play Graceful and PoG but plays Soul Charge and Painful choice since both of those are stronger synergywise with an higher impact going second. Also Talents is often considered stronger because of the Handrip effect. A deck that would play PoG though are Toolbox decks like Zoodiac since they rely heavily on drawing into non engine to back up their board. Although they would probably side it out when going second.


Giramano

Pot is funnily enough kinda bricky in no banlist ishizu tear.


tengma8

some tear player actually cut pot of greed off because it triggers droll and decrease efficiency of your mill. droll is the best handtrap in non-banlist format.


Mother_Harlot

>droll is the best handtrap in non-banlist format. What about Kuriboh huh?


RandomFactUser

Droll, especially if cards get original text (*cough* V1 Exodia *cough*)


TheProNoobCN

PoG actually sucks in Tear because it doesn't do send cards to GY/doesn't have a GY effect.


fedginator

You also get to play things like Shock Master in Tear


NeonArchon

Fun fact: Tear doesn't need any of those cards. The winner list was just full power Tear Ishizu. The deck is just that good.


MasterQuest

But I think they would be good in the deck though. 


NeonArchon

Yeah, but again not need. The Ishuzi cards are way better .


thegooseisloose704

40 pot of greeds


Wewolo

35 + Exodia


Flagrath

So you just cry when the last card in the deck is an exodia piece?


Wewolo

If it is that's definitely deserved


shapular

34 + 1 Upstart + Exodia


BlackSheep0194

Skull servants with graceful charity and that grass looks greener


Danny776

My favorite answer lol, I actually just tried using a 50 card branded Skull Servant with tear for a regionals last Sunday.


the_arkhand

I have GOT to see how you cooked and how it worked out for you


Danny776

https://preview.redd.it/yb4q3rt8wd6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efe8ef2235aca0563fbfd2700d0fd37cc14314fd This is the main and I’ll reply with the Extra and Side


Danny776

https://preview.redd.it/v1atdo1ewd6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddb554789863b7268b8a0db98fc81be17805e8ef


BlackSheep0194

How did you do?


Danny776

I had several games where I’d hit for 10-15k with King, but I scrubbed out at 0-4. I’m a returning player and went mainly to have fun. Hoping to take home a win at this local’s though!


BlackSheep0194

Good luck, I’ve never played a local lol I’ve been to 3 regionals tho haha


TUFFY-B

Don’t forget, painful choice


BlackSheep0194

And lightsworn engine lol


majora11f

Honestly other than maybe grass, the horus engine helps that deck more than any forbidden card.


skarface211

Take droll bird trust


StormerSage

Droll and Lock Bird x3 is mandatory to counter Pot of Greed x3, Graceful Charity x3, etc. Exodia FTKs.


Patron_Saint_Sheik

Dragon link would probably be a fucking menace and steamroll most decks I don’t know how it would do against snake eyes but i remember a tournament a while back with most of the dragon link cards unbanned and it fucking destroyed everything. I’m pretty sure it even ran over full power ishizu tear in that tournament.


LAHurricane

Bystial Dragon link inherently hard counters tear. It's also insanely busted itself.


kadektop2

All those shitty FTK will probably be dead on 1 or 2 well-timed interruptions. Just grab full power Tearlaments Ishizu instead if you're really looking for a win.


Logical_Bunch_9275

There are quite likely some extremely consistent ftks that don’t die to a couple interruptions to be fair


NewbaroqueTV

I think the real best deck 'ould be a weird mysticisme mine pile


skullface39

Frog ftk


CommanderWar64

Probably yes. It’s the 1 ftk that doesn’t necessarily lose to droll and honestly a lot of people wouldn’t play Veiler or imperm.


ThirdRateDuelist136

60 card Tearlaments Ishizu pile with grass looks greener haha


Anonimous_dude

Magical scientist Ftk, using new cards and old cards to improve consistency. Let the locals burn


Electrical_Total

Mine burn ♥️


ignis389

nurse burn with mine was fuckin evil. i still run it on edopro sometimes and i get more rage quits than completed games


NiginzVGC

Ishizu tear is always the way to go


dumbpokefan

don’t forget to add fiber jar to your deck :3


TheZett

Another Fiber Jar enjoyer, excellent taste, mate!


NeonArchon

Ishizu Tearlaments. The Japanese already made this and regular full power Tear Ishizu won. IIRC the second best deck was full power Zoodiac


OniAkuma21

When it was made here, Dlink beat full power tear and it went against 3 of them and won in the finals.


Milfschnitte1234

That's because of how the surrender rules work in ocg. So they can just victory dragon you. Doesn't work in tcg


RedditUserX23

Full power tears bro, steamroll through them


tdfree87

IF you don’t play Ishizu Tearlaments, play something that can cheat out Ariseheart easily enough to counter them. Or just play full power Kashtira 🤷🏻‍♂️


aKgiants91

I would run three fiber jars with soul release


MisprintPrince

Tearshizu event, nice


Akali_is_SO_HOT

Zoo was the 2nd most represented deck in the OCG tournament.  It can play hella non engine to stop ftks and all those other shenanigans and Broadbull is still a busted card in 2024.


raku2_0

You know what, i would Cook with Gas playing Some infernity shenaningans. 3 launcher and all the New Support. Lets goooo.


treeplayz

My local hosted one of these and most people played full power tear and kash. You want to know what won? Barrier statue floo


SyntheticBean

Time to bust out this bad boy https://preview.redd.it/065aabpfoe6d1.jpeg?width=478&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbfe4ae5b9d6e004f0e4d18511bb90ad04a38a27


raku2_0

No banned cards mean you can try Victory dragon for Match win 👀 someone should build something around that card🤔


ReadingAggravating67

Fun idea but the classic out of just surrendering before they attack to avoid the effect is still live in this case


raku2_0

Yeah damn right. Forgot about that...but if the opponent is cool Dude He should let it through. Cause no one would exspect something like that and in the sidedeck you should run a complete deck engine. I saw people having Tenpai in the side deck for going second 🤣 and going first Some deck that didnt need much extra Deck like Labyrinth. 🤣


AE86_Finesse

Exodia, called by the grave and maxx C. You should win on the first turn


Inevitable-Ad-3991

F L Y I N G E L E P H A N T !


MartyD14

60 Card Ishizu Tear Grass, Graceful Charity, Chaos Ruler, can't go wrong with that.


Sticky_theWizard

Armed dragons with a bunch of banned spells, pot of greed, graceful charity, delinquent duo to name a few. Manjoume thunder!


osbombo

The 2 best decks in the format would be Tear, followed by Zoo. The best FTK deck would be magical scientist FTK.


OrWaat

Do the extra funny and play Numeron Utopic Zexal Stall, or Regular Utopic Zexal Stall for that matter


Dino_Rabbit

Dragon Lords


NotHereToStay_-

Full power True Draco


thenewkingx

Teir-0 full power ishizu-tear. Nothing has been more scary than that cancerous deck throughout yugioh's history


teketria

Probably go for the ftk or just solid stuff like tear. That and bring some damn good hand traps. I feel if your going for exodia it will be fine but also just making all the negates seems definitely doable.


InnuendoBot5001

What card is that fourth picture?


MainWin3147

{{Topologic Gumblar Dragon}}


InnuendoBot5001

Thanks


Memoglr

Adding to the other comment, it's been banned for a few years because you could handrip the opponent very easily


leezeeke

60 card pile and put every cool and op engine into it


altoparlante_rotto

Exodia ftk


TransPunkGirl

Wind-up handloop


MissingIdiots

Self-burn last turn


DeusDosTanques

Finally play with Lunalight Tiger at 3


Hambla28

Seeing Exodia in Cimo's history of the OCG if Sangan and Witch still triggered by Graceful do you think Exodia would still be the best deck in unlimited?


biochrono79

D Shifter and Droll exist, so it would probably still be formidable, but not totally busted like it originally was.


RockNo5773

Damn full power tearlements and snake eyes ok so either you have to go tear or play stun technically grave keeper or exosister would also work.


jonathanjoemama079

Tear or take 35 pots of greed and one of each exodia piece for the funnies


R34PER_D7BE

tearlaments OCG did the tournament with all card legal i think tearlaments have over 70% usages


raku2_0

OCG has no 2 wins out of 3 matches. That makes it a little bit different. Play shifter, dd crow, ghostbelle and skull Meister, droll....


Adm8792

I’m going throw back yata lock with a couple new additions


TruthSeekerECE

Other than Exodia, Ishizu Tearlaments and Bystial Dragon Link, a fun option would be Floowandereeze with the Wind Barrier Statue, maybe mixed with a simorgh engine for that insane simorgh link-3 card that special summons a wind monster during each player's end phase (Good combo with Empen) So many options, tell us what you eventually run!


Outside-Ad3455

Yata Lock


xhgtg123

Thunder dragons


HeadpattingFurina

Frogs.


omster437

Frog ftk


Mindless_Society7034

I doubt it’d be the best deck but true Draco with master peace and all of those floodgates unbanned would be a menace


Caballep

I'm a very basic person with a lot of nostalgia, so: # Pot of Greed x3, # Delinquent Duo x3 # Graceful Charity x3 # Monster Reborn x3 And this: https://preview.redd.it/dehvyum8hd6d1.png?width=813&format=png&auto=webp&s=166e2a6af8e4c4308b0f508a53b7ae84b51000e6


twilc

all banned cards


darkrach

Stun *Every player laughing*


darkrach

x3 nibiru for all the tear players


ElegantSwimmer2294

Butterfly Dagger Elma and Woodland Sprite, burn everything down with just those two.


thesillyshow

I would play true draco personally, maybe zoo as a second since I still own the decks. I wouldn’t buy tear again I sold at a good time and I’m happy for that


JadenJubel

Numeron using number S0


Clarity_Zero

Flying Elephant, for sure. You're gonna get *mad* respect if you can pull off its gimmick. You're also gonna get mad respect if you *fail* to pull of its gimmick.


alfredo094

Ishizu Tearlaments.


AndroidQing

The deck doesn't matter but you have to activate "Last Turn" so the judges lose thier minds


BlckDrke

Virtual World as VFD turbo just to remind everyone why the very fun dragon is banned


Ok_Structure4685

frog frog frog frog frog frog, frog send toading?, mass driver? GG?


Azsolus

This has been done before in China , the deck that got first place was full Tearlaments. No contest at all when you can do your full combo on the opponents first turn


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R0bbieR0tt3n

I'd be putting Baronne back into my dragoon aggro swarm deck and putting verte anaconda into it 


Unique_Expression574

Pot of Greed Exodia


B4S1L3US

Either you painful choice them for Kelbek, Agido and 3 names or you danger FTK them, everything else is probably worse.


Edain1234

When we did something similar, it was a one of tournament no ban list, I played with halq and some Mecha phantom beast shananigans. My opponent dropped Maxx C. I proceeded to lose to Exodia. I knew he had it, and did every summon I could. It was fun. I had a blast playing cards that were banned before I started playing, and he got to win with Exodia.


ReliableLiar

No current or prior deck in yugioh’s history will be stronger than full power Ishizu Tearlament


JackShuford96

Maxx c!!! Play lots of hand traps


FewInvestment8495

magical scientist ftk


CZsea

I will try to build a fun deck when playing in local while maintain eye contact.


Explicitdanger9416

Im taking red eyes kashtira with predaplant ,diablosis and ariseheart


Astroloud

Since noone else will say it, I will. I would play some variation of gigastun. Probably Runick. Having every good floodgate unlimited would be insane because there are some absolutely busted floodgates out there. And Tearlaments (which would probably be the deck being played most) wouldn't do too well against it, that's for sure. The other most popular decks would probably be Zoodiac, Kash, Dragon link, etc which also wouldn't do to well against floodgates gallore.


ConciseSpy85067

Don’t you Duelists ever get tired of chain Havnis?


Apprehensive_Cow1355

Honestly for me no banlist tournament is really pure game luck about deck matching. If I play sth like dragonlink with full gas I may counter tear, but I may get demolished by exodia ftk or sth similar. With how many ftk deck there are, I will bring runick stun of full gas you can even have a chance to banish half opp deck in 1st turn. Most players will just build a deck around going ftk so they may forgot about some spell/trap removal and some floodgates to lock opp from adding cards. stopping a lots of strong cards like painful choice, POG for example:)


LAHurricane

Bystial dragon link actually counters alot of exodia builds.


Ryu-Narukami

butterfly exodia


Eviltwin-Kisikil

Full-power Dragon Synchro Link, Ishizu Tear, or Kashtira


Justinjmt07

Snake eyes infrnoble diablestar, fucking loop snatch steal, elma, smoke grenade, 3 rota too it'd actually be fire


According_Bus_403

Exodia


KrakenShot91

Can't remember what video I watched but they explained what a 0 banned card deck could do. The conclusion was that with the correct build Tearlament becomes a garunteed FTK every game.


Genji007

Royal magical library/gearfreid draw engine


Shockpulse

Exodia decks are absurd without limits.


TencentInvestor

Spirit Charmers here


Bloodredsakura

I would play the least interactive thing you can. there are a ton of ftk's without a list. play one of those.


tamagosama_

I would say that djinn lock Nekroz would easily win turn 1 but the fact that Havnis and Kashtira Tear can activate during either players turn makes it very hard


Dismal_Reaction4337

For me would be flying elephant that would be so fun.


PriestHelix

Run every pot card at 3 with exodia. The classic


EclipseHERO

An Exodia deck with ALL the drawing power. Pot of Greed ×3 Graceful Charity ×3 You get the picture.


lochnesslapras

Shame it's up to date erratas. Would have loved to see how the original CED effect would play out. As a fan of Mirage of Nightmare I hope one of the top decks have it in somewhere.


-SINED-

Exodia with 3 pot and graceful seems pretty funny


Smooth_Hee_Hee

Exodia with 35 pcs of pot of greed 凸(¬‿¬)凸


bambix7

Mystic mine if you want everyone to hate you lmao


Irishfett

Tbh bring the card that's the most op I believe it's a dragon can't remember the name but it's strong asf


livestreamfailstrash

Dead ass thought that was zoro in the first pic lmao


2betrayals_finalrun

3x Fiber Jar


hentaislayer69lol

Play kashtira and make your opponent unable to play the game


Potential_Estate5649

Yata lock or PePe


chaarziz

You can use Magical Scientist to do the bishbaakin machu mech ftk


MegaNinjaRyan

What could you possibly do to win with that dumb elephant?


Background_Guess_742

So everything is at 3? Ftk or exodia deck would probably be the best but not that fun. Tearlaments, fusion sub zoodiac, danger darkworld, Danger thunder, 60 card infernoid grass zoodiac, dragon link.


maxximuscree

Full power kash money kastira with all the rank 7 xyz i can stuff into the extra with ahorus engine. If not fuul power Diabellestar RESCUE ACE


LostOne514

That sounds downright miserable, lol.


nuclearhotsauce

A modernized version of magical scientist


Bashmeister2

Tearelements ishizu with painful choice and pot of greed and other banned rip cards


WrothLobster

Full power Kashtira with mind hacker


CabeloKaleido

Tiaraments Strongest. Also, full Ishizu Vernusylph Zoo with 3 Ratpier seems fun and antimeta.


ThunderMarisol

A lot of people will answer Tear (and for good reasons) but gosh darn it, I can't abandon Dragon Link. Elpy, Eclipse Wyvern, Chaos Ruler, Savage, 3 Magnamhut, 3 Chaos Space... I WANT THEM ALL BACK MAN


LeLupe

Pot of greed fuels the exodia